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Comments about the soundtrack for Agora (Dario Marianelli)
Historically illiterate?

Adamoriens
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Kern
Brian H
Historically illiterate?   Monday, March 8, 2010 (3:38 p.m.) 

Secondly, Agora has also been protested by a notable religious lobby for "promoting hatred of Christians," an understandably inevitable reaction to the film's historical depiction about the fall of the Roman Empire and the mass loss of knowledge in Alexandria that resulted from the Christian fervor of the 4th Century. As Christianity spawned religious warfare at the time, much of the world's scientific knowledge, maintained by pagan intellectuals and philosophers in the city's central library, was destroyed because it refuted the growing power of religious doctrine.

Contrary to Mr. Clemmenson's confident claims, historians are still not sure who destroyed the ancient library at Alexandra. There are actually four suspects, among them Julius Caesar and the Moslem Caliph Omar: http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9

It is certain that the Christian Roman emperor Theophilus gutted an adjoining pagan temple and converted it to a church, but there is no evidence that he destroyed the thousands of scrolls within the library itself. It is true, though, that Hypatia was probably killed by Christians, although the circumstances are much less clear-cut than Mr. Clemmenson suggests. And I seriously doubt anything in the library "refuted" rising religious doctrine. Perhaps a definition check is in order.

Because she [Hypatia] challenged the notion that the sun revolved around the Earth, she was seen by Christian mobs as being a responsible party in the religious turmoil at the time and executed.

At the very least, the idea that Hypatia was a proponent of heliocentrism could be approximated as laughably ludicrous (alliteration!). With regards to astronomy, she was most certainly a geocentrist and an astrologer. Perhaps if Mr. Clemmenson got his historical narrative from somewhere other than Agora's trailer, we could expect some cogent cultural commentary. Alas, it seems that buffoonery plagues the faithful and agnostic alike.



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Kern
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Adamoriens

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David Norlin
And here's my agenda, professor,   Monday, March 8, 2010 (5:51 p.m.) 

> Contrary to Mr. Clemmenson's confident claims, historians are still not
> sure who destroyed the ancient library at Alexandra. There are actually
> four suspects, among them Julius Caesar and the Moslem Caliph Omar:
> http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9 It is
> certain that the Christian Roman emperor Theophilus gutted an adjoining
> pagan temple and converted it to a church, but there is no evidence that
> he destroyed the thousands of scrolls within the library itself. It is
> true, though, that Hypatia was probably killed by Christians, although the
> circumstances are much less clear-cut than Mr. Clemmenson suggests. And I
> seriously doubt anything in the library "refuted" rising
> religious doctrine. Perhaps a definition check is in order.

> At the very least, the idea that Hypatia was a proponent of heliocentrism
> could be approximated as laughably ludicrous (alliteration!). With regards
> to astronomy, she was most certainly a geocentrist and an astrologer.
> Perhaps if Mr. Clemmenson got his historical narrative from somewhere
> other than Agora's trailer, we could expect some cogent cultural
> commentary. Alas, it seems that buffoonery plagues the faithful and
> agnostic alike.

I want to ass-[bleep!] Rachel Weisz over an antique chez lounge!

Why did I say that? Because it's just as relevant to Marianelli's score for Agora as your pointless intellectual bull[bleep!]. HAVE A NICE DAY.



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David Norlin
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Kern
Re: And here's my agenda, professor,   Monday, March 8, 2010 (7:14 p.m.) 
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> I want to ass-[bleep!] Rachel Weisz over an antique chez lounge!

> Why did I say that? Because it's just as relevant to Marianelli's score
> for Agora as your pointless intellectual bull[bleep!]. HAVE A NICE DAY.

It's only natural to mock those more intelligent than you. We understand.


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Brian H
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Adamoriens
Re: Historically illiterate?   Tuesday, March 9, 2010 (1:52 p.m.) 

The facts about Hypatia and the library have always been disputed, but that doesn't make one angle wrong. The Christians are trying hard to disprove the version shown in this movie (and consequently summarized by CC) but you and they could be just as wrong. The better question is Who Cares? This is a film score site with summaries of the movies.

> Secondly, Agora has also been protested by a notable religious lobby
> for "promoting hatred of Christians," an understandably
> inevitable reaction to the film's historical depiction about the fall of
> the Roman Empire and the mass loss of knowledge in Alexandria that
> resulted from the Christian fervor of the 4th Century. As Christianity
> spawned religious warfare at the time, much of the world's scientific
> knowledge, maintained by pagan intellectuals and philosophers in the
> city's central library, was destroyed because it refuted the growing power
> of religious doctrine.

> Contrary to Mr. Clemmenson's confident claims, historians are still not
> sure who destroyed the ancient library at Alexandra. There are actually
> four suspects, among them Julius Caesar and the Moslem Caliph Omar:
> http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9 It is
> certain that the Christian Roman emperor Theophilus gutted an adjoining
> pagan temple and converted it to a church, but there is no evidence that
> he destroyed the thousands of scrolls within the library itself. It is
> true, though, that Hypatia was probably killed by Christians, although the
> circumstances are much less clear-cut than Mr. Clemmenson suggests. And I
> seriously doubt anything in the library "refuted" rising
> religious doctrine. Perhaps a definition check is in order.

> Because she [Hypatia] challenged the notion that the sun revolved
> around the Earth, she was seen by Christian mobs as being a responsible
> party in the religious turmoil at the time and executed.

> At the very least, the idea that Hypatia was a proponent of heliocentrism
> could be approximated as laughably ludicrous (alliteration!). With regards
> to astronomy, she was most certainly a geocentrist and an astrologer.
> Perhaps if Mr. Clemmenson got his historical narrative from somewhere
> other than Agora's trailer, we could expect some cogent cultural
> commentary. Alas, it seems that buffoonery plagues the faithful and
> agnostic alike.



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