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Comments about the soundtrack for Avatar (James Horner)
Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!

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Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Tuesday, March 2, 2010 (5:38 a.m.) 

The soundtrack is ok and certainly I would like to see a 'deluxe edition' come out with more of the films music as I'm sure there are some good nuggets we havenít got here in this release.

For me however I keep hearing The Wrath of Kahn! There is a small grouping of notes played in 'surprise attack' in the Wrath of Kahn played by trumpets that are echoed in the Avatar music similarly [slight variance and different use but I can here it still!].

For example:

track 1: ..in cryo... - 58sec and 2m10sec we hear the wind instruments in the background in that similar sounding note to wrath.

track 10: destruction of Hometree - at 5min

track 13: war - 8m32sec

I'm not saying itís exactly the same, just similar to the sound used in wrath of kahn and I quite liked noticing it.

Also I felt that 'Jakes first flight' in the beginning sounded awfully like Shearmur's soundtrack theme from the Count of Monte Cristo.



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Re: Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Friday, March 26, 2010 (8:47 a.m.) 

> The soundtrack is ok and certainly I would like to see a 'deluxe edition'
> come out with more of the films music as I'm sure there are some good
> nuggets we havenít got here in this release.

> For me however I keep hearing The Wrath of Kahn! There is a small grouping
> of notes played in 'surprise attack' in the Wrath of Kahn played by
> trumpets that are echoed in the Avatar music similarly [slight variance
> and different use but I can here it still!].

> For example:

> track 1: ..in cryo... - 58sec and 2m10sec we hear the wind instruments in
> the background in that similar sounding note to wrath.

> track 10: destruction of Hometree - at 5min

> track 13: war - 8m32sec

> I'm not saying itís exactly the same, just similar to the sound used in
> wrath of kahn and I quite liked noticing it.

> Also I felt that 'Jakes first flight' in the beginning sounded awfully
> like Shearmur's soundtrack theme from the Count of Monte Cristo.

After some further playing...I take it back a little, not so much Wrath but a hint that I don't seem to notice as much as the first time I listened to it...

It is a bit of a mish mash though and I half expect it to turn into Titanic at any point.



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Re: Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Thursday, December 30, 2010 (1:52 p.m.) 

This drives me INSANE with Horner. You defiantely aren't alone in this, it's gotten to the point it's REALLY distracting from a film to hear the same motifs again and again that he's been using for close to 2 decades.

In my opinion this score deserves 3 stars perhaps I'm even being generous there, It really didn't deserve this rating at all. I came out of the cinema thinking wow, that was a great film, the only major let down was the freaking score.


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Re: Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Friday, February 4, 2011 (4:18 p.m.) 
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> This drives me INSANE with Horner. You defiantely aren't alone in this,
> it's gotten to the point it's REALLY distracting from a film to hear the
> same motifs again and again that he's been using for close to 2 decades.

> In my opinion this score deserves 3 stars perhaps I'm even being generous
> there, It really didn't deserve this rating at all. I came out of the
> cinema thinking wow, that was a great film, the only major let down was
> the freaking score.

I agree with you totally! I'm not the biggest Horner fan, but this is one of his cliche action scores. If you want a good Horner score, get Mask of Zorro or Casper.


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Re: Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Wednesday, April 14, 2010 (1:00 a.m.) 

ha! i heard that too:)


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Re: Ok, but not great, I even hear a bar of Wrath of Kahn in there!   Saturday, May 15, 2010 (6:29 p.m.) 

OMG!!! I thought I was the only one in the world who would notice the Count Of Monte Cristo reference in there. Hell of a tip of the hat to a pretty nice score.

And, as for the motif heard in track 1 at 58 seconds in... which seems to be the same motif that is at the other places you listed, it's something that Horner puts in just about EVERY soundtrack he writes. I used to hate him for it and then I finally realized that it was probably something like Carol Burnett tugging at her ear. But seriously, Willow, Aliens, Troy... it's probably even in The Rocketeer somewhere and I just don't remember the score well enough to cite it.

Funny thing about the review, for me, was that a lot of the elements that Horner put into the forefront were elements of his music that I'd never heard before. Between being pleasantly surprised at what I thought was a fresh sound, just at the edge of Horner's comfort level, and his MASSIVE manipulation of the themes for the film (even manipulating that 4-note motif which I've NEVER heard him do) I really enjoyed the soundtrack.

Happy listening.



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