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Where's the rest of the stars?

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Where's the rest of the stars?   Friday, October 16, 2009 (12:17 p.m.) 

There're a few stars missing in this review's conclusion, the correct amount of stars should be:

As heard in the movie: *****
As heard on (the commercial '94 '07) albums: ****

The sole reason for the 'on album' four stars is the incomplete tracklist, you still need the bootlegs to be complete. The sound quality on the official releases is excellent, but it's not complete, not the pure soundtrack as it is.

During my study (musictechnology), we spent a lesson watching (snippets of) Blade Runner, to analyze the music and the soundscape. Yes? Hello? This movie and its music made it to college as a reference object to study!

Can you really watch this clip with dry eyes and think: 'nah, two stars, three at most'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWNZkoQHuE

Or is it just ye olde conservative Filmtracks point of view on using synthesizers? They can do nothing right, it seems.


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Re: Where's the rest of the stars?   Friday, October 16, 2009 (11:11 p.m.) 

> Or is it just ye olde conservative Filmtracks point of view on using synthesizers? They
> can do nothing right, it seems.

And why does Crimson Tide have five stars, then? That's an almost purely synthetic score.


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Re: Where's the rest of the stars?   Saturday, October 17, 2009 (2:36 a.m.) 

> And why does Crimson Tide have five stars, then? That's an almost purely
> synthetic score.

CT has an orchestral undertone. It uses (apart from some synthetic sounds) orchestral samples, just like Alexander btw, and it has 1:1 sync with the scenes. That's where CT and BR differ. BR doesn't have an orchestral tone nor is it this typical 1:1 sync music, though in my opinion there certainly is synchronization going on, but on more abstract levels.

Aside from that, CT has synths from the mid 90's, BR has synths from the late 70's. This is a difference between the two. And whether you like it or not, it's exactly these late 70's synths that emphasize the distance that the BR future imposes.


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Crimson Tide score sucks and Blade Runner is great one.   Friday, October 23, 2009 (11:35 p.m.) 

> CT has an orchestral undertone. It uses (apart from some synthetic sounds)
> orchestral samples, just like Alexander btw, and it has 1:1 sync with the
> scenes. That's where CT and BR differ. BR doesn't have an orchestral tone
> nor is it this typical 1:1 sync music, though in my opinion there
> certainly is synchronization going on, but on more abstract levels.

> Aside from that, CT has synths from the mid 90's, BR has synths from the
> late 70's. This is a difference between the two. And whether you like it
> or not, it's exactly these late 70's synths that emphasize the distance
> that the BR future imposes.

Blade Runner is lot more better than Crimson Tide.


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Crimson Tide score can actually be heard and Blade Runner is bland *NM*   Wednesday, November 11, 2009 (4:47 p.m.) 



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Re: Where's the rest of the stars?   Saturday, October 17, 2009 (4:50 p.m.) 
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> Can you really watch this clip with dry eyes and think: 'nah, two stars,
> three at most'?

I just watched it, and didn't feel a thing. C'mon, are you kidding me? Can the sound heard during the opening titles actually be called music? The only time where you can actually hear some melody is during the introduction to the city, and that's minimal. And worst, you actually saw this as a lesson on film music in school? I guess they're just like the AMPAS.


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Re: Where's the rest of the stars?   Monday, October 19, 2009 (12:11 p.m.) 

> There're a few stars missing in this review's conclusion, the correct
> amount of stars should be:

> As heard in the movie: *****
> As heard on (the commercial '94 '07) albums: ****

When reviewing a score, you have to take into consideration the entire product -- a single memorable cue does not a great score make.

As for the album presentation, as much as I personally do enjoy the music from Bladerunner, I can't help but agree the album situation is a mess. I personally find the '94 album to be the best presentation currently available, but to me it looses a whole star for having dialogue over the music. When will album producers finally learn we don't want dialogue on our score albums! If I want to hear the music and dialogue together, I'll watch the movie!



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