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Re: Williams is burned out!
• Posted by: Ken Applegate   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Thursday, July 1, 2004, at 9:31 a.m.
• IP Address: 66-215-28-56.nwk-mres.charterpipeline.net
• In Response to: Re: Williams is burned out! (Thomas W.)

Great, when Williams STARTED OUT, he didn't write anything new... gee, do you think he might have been playing the game (And what about his career after that?) ??? Those composers you mentioned were the best composers in Hollywood, at the time (and, it's stYle, not stile *S* [just messin' with ya, not tryin' ta be mean about]) Also, was Zimmer around when Star Trek the Motion picture was released?? As I recall, Jerry Goldsmith used a great deal of non-acoustic (aka electronic) instruments in that score. Ya see? Goldsmith used them 10 years before anybody ever heard of Zimmer.

Also, Zimmer seems to use the orchestra quite often, if I'm not too much mistaken. I have seen nothing to indicate that Hans didn't just follow the directors orders when he used his electronics. The idea behind film scoring is to please the audience AFTER you please the filmmakers. Case in point: Pirates (which Zimmer produced). One day, Jerry Bruckheimer (I'm sorry if I butchered his name) walks in and exclaims "If I hear any woodwinds in this score, you're all fired!!!" Naturally, I would have spat in the mans face, were he not paying me a million bucks to compose. I'm shure that Klaus felt the same way.

Now, if Zimmer could come up with a completely unrecycled and original tune AND do a good job of filling in the details like Williams does every damned time, then my opinion of Zimmer will go up. But, until he can do this on a regular basis, Williams will always be the overal better composer. Williams does so much more, so much better that Zimmer. That is probably the biggest motiviation for people caring more for Williams than Zimmer.

> You all seem to think that there can't be any doubt about Williams being
> the
better composer. Well I think Zimmer is because when Williams
> started composing
he didn't write anything new. He was another Jerry
> Goldsmith and another John
Barry just his stile was a little
> different. Here's Zimmer who was one of the first ones to use electronics
> and didn't need the orchestra all the time to
produce a great score.
>
John Williams received five oscars because he uses the orchestra and
> most critics like that because that's what they grew up with and they
> dislike most of
Zimmer's works because it's NEW and different and most
> critics don't want anything different than the orchestral scores composed
> by Williams and co.

> Believe me Zimmer is at least as good as Williams and in my opinion
> better.

> TOM




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