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The Hunger Games is not Harry Potter!

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The Hunger Games is not Harry Potter!   Saturday, February 15, 2014 (10:11 a.m.) 

People who keep complaining about JNH's scores was expecting another generic bombastic fantasy score ala the first Harry Potter scores. The Hunger Games is not fantasy, it's a gritty dystopian sci-fi trilogy with influences from roman and greek mythlogy.

Another composer would have treated this franchise with senseless action music, disrepecting the story and the intentions behind it. James managed to get the sounds and styles to the whole franchise in the first score. And he expands these in the same way Powell expanded his sounds on the first Bourne movie. Also giving new use of themes (the love theme was actually used in the first score), and writing a real main theme for the series (the one for Katniss).

Unlike Harry Potter, the themes and sounds for the whole franchise we're founded on the first score, and it's not going to chance.

A composer doesn't write themes or scores to be memorable, but to fit in a film. He shouldn't be forced to write "catchy music and themes" And seems that neither with Francis Lawrence or Shyamalan, who always brought the best from JNH, people can't stop that stupid bias against him, given how they treated the scores he did for them in 2013.

And even worst, because this is the first standalone and sucessful franchise for JNH, but they're ruining it just like they ruined the Harry Potter franchise with their annoying Williams fanboyism. It's a shame.


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Classic!   Monday, February 17, 2014 (4:33 p.m.) 

> People who keep complaining about JNH's scores was expecting another
> generic bombastic fantasy score ala the first Harry Potter scores. The
> Hunger Games is not fantasy, it's a gritty dystopian sci-fi trilogy with
> influences from roman and greek mythlogy.

We don't want a bombastic score. We just want a good score.

> people can't stop that stupid bias against him,
> given how they treated the scores he did for them in 2013.

Derpty derpty doo! How's life as a broken record treating you, bud?

Seriously. Seek help. Your bizarre James Newton Howard persecution complex is approaching ridiculous territory by now. Can't you just accept that most people don't like these scores as much as you do?


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Re: The Hunger Games is not Harry Potter!   Tuesday, February 18, 2014 (7:31 a.m.) 

First of all: JNH is my absolute favourite Composer from all time and I really enjoy The Hunger Games and Catching Fire.

That said...I'm still disappointed. Do you get the difference? I'm disappointed I'm not saying that I despise the score and that's the case with most of the score fans.

We just want him to outdo himself. He wrote great themes, but he doesn't use them really much. I loved the Katniss theme from the first film. Why doesn't he use it anymore? Or the wonderful gorgeous cue 'Healing Katniss', my Highlight from the first film and it is completely abandoned.

Yes, many ideas from Catching Fire come from the first film, but they're not really developed. The Reprise of 'Rues Farewell' is more like a re-edit, than a developement. And that goes for most of them. The Train cue is re-edited in qa Scene that has no Connection with the one from the first film, the ending of the film uses the capitol material...why?

The only really used Thing is the love theme and that one appears one time in the first film and two times here.

Out of us hardcore score fans, nobody will ever remember Howard's score. Ask the Hunger games fan about the Musical identity? They won't hum the love theme. They will hum the capitol Anthem or the mockingjay call from the Trailers.

Exspecially the latter would have been a great main theme. Okay, it's not by Howard but it fits his simple but effective style and he could write some great manipulations of it. Just take 'Signs'...what he did with just 3 notes.

We don't want a cheesy Fanfare theme for katniss and her Problems, but why not have something more than Sound design? Again, I love the scores but they could have been much more.

And finally...try to be nice, okay? Here are many People with different opinions. Gravitiy is one score that divides us, but do you see us killing each other? We have the ones saying 'It's simple but brillant' and we have the ones 'It's simple and boring' and both camps get along.

I mean...did you read the thread 'Unpopular Opinions'? There were many risky Statements and nobody was killed. It doesn't matter if you dislike Williams, love Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross or are bored by Desplat...we all can get along.

So, try it, too, okay? You love These scores, many like it and many are disppointed. That's the world. Man, I'm a Shyamalan fanboy, I know what I'm talking about when it's about 'unpopular opinions', so calm down.

Oh, and Potter's Themes were founded in the first score as well.

Also, Howard's work with Shyamalan IS the reason we have so high expectations.


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Re: The Hunger Games is not Harry Potter!   Tuesday, February 18, 2014 (9:03 a.m.) 

> People who keep complaining about JNH's scores was expecting another
> generic bombastic fantasy score ala the first Harry Potter scores. The
> Hunger Games is not fantasy, it's a gritty dystopian sci-fi trilogy with
> influences from roman and greek mythlogy.

> Another composer would have treated this franchise with senseless action
> music, disrepecting the story and the intentions behind it. James managed
> to get the sounds and styles to the whole franchise in the first score.
> And he expands these in the same way Powell expanded his sounds on the
> first Bourne movie. Also giving new use of themes (the love theme was
> actually used in the first score), and writing a real main theme for the
> series (the one for Katniss).

> Unlike Harry Potter, the themes and sounds for the whole franchise we're
> founded on the first score, and it's not going to chance.

> A composer doesn't write themes or scores to be memorable, but to fit in a
> film. He shouldn't be forced to write "catchy music and themes"
> And seems that neither with Francis Lawrence or Shyamalan, who always
> brought the best from JNH, people can't stop that stupid bias against him,
> given how they treated the scores he did for them in 2013.

> And even worst, because this is the first standalone and sucessful
> franchise for JNH, but they're ruining it just like they ruined the Harry
> Potter franchise with their annoying Williams fanboyism. It's a shame.

Alright, at this point I won't even bother with a written response. Instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto


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