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12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out

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12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Sunday, August 31, 2003 (1:54 p.m.) 

I mean this with the utmost respect for all of you. I ask that you respect me.

1. God shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are evil. He hates those practices because they blind us to His loving ways, then turn our hearts to a deceptive quest for self-empowerment and deadly thrills. Harry Potter's world may be fictional, but the timeless pagan practices it promotes are real and deadly. Well aware that the final result is spiritual bondage and oppression, He warns us:

"There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..." Deuteronomy 18:9-12

2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its power to change beliefs and values. Imaginary (or virtual) experiences and well-written fantasies can affect the mind and memories as much, if not more, than actual experiences.[3] Designed to stir feelings and produce strong emotional responses, a well-planned myth with likeable characters can be far more memorable than the less exciting daily reality -- especially when reinforced through books, toys and games as well as movies. Small wonder Harry's fans have been counting the days until their next fantastic journey into Hogwarts' classes on sorcery, divination, potions and spells.

"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24

3. Each occult image and enticing suggestion prompts the audience to feel more at home in the dark, paranormal setting. Children identify with their favorite characters and learn to see wizards and witches from a popular peer perspective rather than from God's perspective. Those who sense that the occult world is evil face a choice: Resist peer pressure or rationalize their imagined participation in Harry's supernatural adventures.

The second choice may quiet the nagging doubts, but rationalizing evil and justifying sin will sear the conscience and shift the child's perception of values from God's perspective to a more "comfortable" cultural adaptation. Even Christian children can easily learn to conform truth to multicultural ideals and turn God's values upside down - just as did God's people in Old Testament days:

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:2-21

Harry Potter Special [Magazine] interviews actors Daniel Radcliffe (Harry), Rupert Grint (Ron), Tom Felton (Draco), Harry Melling (Dudley):

If you could cast a spell on someone, what would it be?

Daniel: "If I liked them, it would be a spell where I'd give them special power, like invisibility.

Your favorite word in the Harry Potter books?

Daniel: "I like the word--it's very bad to say this--but I like the word Voldemort."

What magical power would you like to have?

Rupert: "I'd like to levitate."

Do you prefer to play a bad or good character?

Tom: "Bad. It's more fun because it is different.

What magical power would you want to have?

Tom: "Invisibility. So I could sneak around and go places I shouldn't."

Did you find it hard torturing Harry?

Harry M: "No. I found it quite fun, actually."[4]

Harry Potter Special: Inside the Magical Magazine (Primedia, Inc.), pages 24, 26.

David Rockefeller ( "search" for "Rockefeller" on this site), Vice-President, Financial Operations.

4. God tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what is good." (Romans 12:9) But when Christian children and teens love the Harry Potter myths, delight in the movie and read the books again and again, they are desensitizing their hearts and minds to its evil. Turning God's truth upside down, they are learning to "love" what is evil. The natural next step is to reject God's wise boundaries and "abhor" what He calls good.

"You love evil more than good...." Psalm 52:3

5. Immersed in the values taught at Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and Wizardry, children become spiritually blind. They lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in this eerie world. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds -- making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal than the Kingdom of God.

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9

6. This inner change is usually unconscious, for the occult lessons and impressions tend to bypass rational scrutiny. After all, who will stop, think and weigh the evidence when caught up in such a fast-moving visual adventure? Fun fantasies and strategic entertainment has a special way of altering values, compromising beliefs and changing behavior in adults as well as in children. This learning process has been named "edutainment" -- a favored way to train multicultural citizens for the envisioned 21st century community. Its power to influence beliefs and behavior is illustrated by today's marketing firms which spend billions on entertaining ads that touch emotions, ignore the facts, yet motivate people to buy the product.

"Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, and revive me in Your way." Psalm 119:37

7. The main product marketed through this movie is a belief system that clashes with everything God offers us for our peace and security. This pagan ideology comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes and decorations stamped with HP symbols, action figures and cuddly dolls and audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. But in God's eyes, such paraphernalia become little more than lures and doorways to deeper involvement with the occult. In contrast, He calls a person "blessed" who -

"walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,

nor stands in the path of sinners,

nor sits in the seat of the scornful [mockers];

"But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. Whatever he does shall prosper." Psalm 1:1-3

It might be hard to escape the symbols that remind people of Harry. His words and phrases help fuel today's cultural transformation:

The mainstream media uses the word "muggles" to deride those who don't want children to read Harry Potter books.

"A columnist from the Chicago Daily Herald used Harry-Speak.... He said that a particular NBC Olympics commentator was the 'dementor of the sports commentators.'"

"Coeur d'Alene, Idaho is going to name this year's snowstorms after the Harry Potter characters. The first blizzard of the year will be called Albus...."[4]

8. The implied source of power behind Harry's magical feats tend to distort a child's understanding of God. In the movie as in the books, words traditionally used to refer to occult practices become so familiar that children begin to apply the same terms to God and His promised strength. Many learn to see God as a power source that can be manipulated with the right kind of prayers and rituals -- and view his miracles as just another form of magic. They base their understanding of God on their own feelings and wants, not on His revelation of Himself.

"You thought that I was altogether like you; but I will rebuke you...." Psalm 50:21

9. Blind to the true nature of God, children will synthesize or blend Biblical truth with the pagan beliefs and magical practices demonstrated in the Harry Potter movie. In the end, you distort and destroy any remnant of true Christian faith. For our God cannot be molded to match pagan gods.

“For My people have committed two evils:
They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters,
And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water." Jeremiah 2:1

10. God tells us to "train up a child in the way He should go." It starts with teaching them God's truths and training them all day long to see reality from His, not the world's perspective. To succeed, we need to shield them from contrary values until they know His Word and have memorized enough Scriptures to be able to recognize and resist deception. Once they have learned to love what God loves and see from His perspective, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter.

“And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up." Deuteronomy 6:6-7

11. While some argue that Harry Potter and his friends demonstrate friendship, integrity and honesty, they actually model how to lie and steal and get away with it. Their examples only add to the cultural relativism embraced by most children today who are honest when it doesn't cost anything, but who lie and cheat when it serves their purpose.

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased [depraved] mind, to do those things which are not fitting.... They are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32

12. God has a better way. When His children choose to follow His ways, He gives them a heart to love Him, spiritual eyes that can understand and delight in His Word, a sense of His presence and a confidence in His constant care -- no matter what happens around us. Harry Potter's deceptive thrills are worse than worthless when compared to the wonderful riches our Shepherd promises those who will ignore evil and walk with Him.

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things." Philippians 4:6-8



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Don't post that stuff here   Monday, September 1, 2003 (12:03 a.m.) 

While I respect your opinion as much as the next person, this isn't the place for this kind of hing. Please do not come to a soundtrack site and post this kind of thing here. While you make points about the books and movies it has nothing to do with the music and soundtrack. I'm very sure you couldn't come up with any reasons to avoid the music, so until you do please don't post this stuff again. Thank you.

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You again   Monday, September 1, 2003 (2:14 p.m.) 

Posting the same thing again, huh.
Its a book buddy get with it. I think your taking this to personaly.
How imature do you have to be to think this book/movie/score is offencive to Christians.
Get a life and Grow up.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Tuesday, September 2, 2003 (12:48 p.m.) 

Not that I expect to change your mind or anything, but think of it this way. The "witchcraft" and "wizardry" in Harry Potter is not only fictional, but it bears no resemblance to the witchcraft discussed in the Bible. The ability to do magic (in HP) is more like the ability to roll your tongue, not call upon the powers of Satan. If J.K. Rowling had called it something other than "witchcraft", you wouldn't have anything to say. For example; Jedi's use special powers in the Star Wars saga, but where's the debate there? And I would have to agree with everyone that this is not the place to talk about this, so sorry for continuing it.

The music is awesome, whether or not the story is evil. It fits the action perfectly on film, and is also very enjoyable to listen to. Can't wait to hear what Williams comes up with for "The Prisoner of Azkaban"

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*sigh*   Tuesday, September 30, 2003 (12:56 p.m.) 

I am so tired of reading and hearing this. You must truly lack an imagination to think that Harry potter is something 'evil' or is 'against the bible'. I actually pitty you. I really really do.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Tuesday, September 30, 2003 (3:58 p.m.) 

I never read the bible, but uhh..have you met people who's read Harry Potter? I'm 17 and have read all of the books, and it hasn't "turned me against" anything. It's for fun, and someone who takes it seriously has got mental problems. They're just books, and you read fantasy for fun. That's what the title is - "fantasy" - not REAL. No way are they supporting the use of witchcraft, but hey, WITCHCRAFT IS NOT REAL. Look at the Salem Witch Trials, okay? It's all fake, and the bible condemns those who use it, but since there's no such thing as 'magic' and 'witchcraft', what's the problem?

And doesn't Jesus walk across water in the bible stories, anyway? Doesn't that require some sort of magic?

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Saturday, October 4, 2003 (5:31 a.m.) 

> I never read the bible, but uhh..have you met people who's read Harry
> Potter? I'm 17 and have read all of the books, and it hasn't "turned
> me against" anything. It's for fun, and someone who takes it
> seriously has got mental problems. They're just books, and you read
> fantasy for fun. That's what the title is - "fantasy" - not
> REAL. No way are they supporting the use of witchcraft, but hey,
> WITCHCRAFT IS NOT REAL. Look at the Salem Witch Trials, okay? It's all
> fake, and the bible condemns those who use it, but since there's no such
> thing as 'magic' and 'witchcraft', what's the problem?

> And doesn't Jesus walk across water in the bible stories, anyway? Doesn't
> that require some sort of magic?

Actually, witchcraft does exist, meaning these people can really cast spells and the like. At least, to my beliefs. I also believe this practice is evil. HOWEVER!!!! I also belive that Harry Potter is all good, harmless, entertaining FUN. I LOVE the books and movies, and soundtracks, and have no problem with them whatsoever. JK Rowling is NOT a witch, she is a Christian. Just like J.R.R Tolkien, and just like C.S. Lewis. I'm only 15 and consider myself more mature than these 'Harry Potter = The Devil' people.

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Re: ...   Tuesday, September 30, 2003 (4:02 p.m.) 

Get a life. It's a movie.
-eyeheartcrucifixes.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Wednesday, October 1, 2003 (5:08 p.m.) 

I totally respect your views but dude you seriously need to relax, taking things out of proportions is what makes people like you say things like this. If you read the books you would know that its a wonderful source of imagination and fun, instead of killing your brain cells in front of the T.V you get to learn and expand you vocabulary. J.K.Rowling opened a new world for children, not against God, not promoting dark magic, but creating a place where people of all ages can relate with or escape thier harsh reality, you may not know this but J.K.Rolwing inspired so many children and even improved thier lives so please dont say things like that.
Sometimes I wonder if you people are dumb, ignorant or just stubborn, or are you just craving for some attention? The only person that can turn you from God is you yourself and your mind, so you better look in the mirror and ask yourself what kind of person you really are.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Saturday, October 4, 2003 (2:06 a.m.) 

Hi Flanders!
Listen to me I'm Homer, Mr Sorceror!
Ooh, I am so evil!



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Come On!!!   Tuesday, December 23, 2003 (2:58 a.m.) 

Ok...
That was one long sermon...
I'll get right to the point...
If you are going to try and convince people to avoid Harry Potter because of it being contradictory to God, try and get it into your head that this is FICTION! We have movies that contradict God. We have books that go against His teachings. But COME ON!!!
People are so against Harry Potter for some reason, burning the books and doing other pointless acts. Why not burn all the books and destroy all the films that contradict the Holy Lord? Geez!!!
I know many Christians will be furious with this but I believe that the existence of Hogwarts is just as plausible as the existence of God. Both have no evidence whatsoever.

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*sounds exasperated* Read this, please.   Thursday, March 18, 2004 (5:18 p.m.) 

You know, I may USED to be Christian, but even though I USED to believe in God, now I know that he is the most ultimate Mary-Sue. If you don't know what that means, I'll tell you: It means that it's fake, no one could be this much of a liar, in this case anyway. God says he'll save us, then why is there hunger, war, famine, and pure evil sadists in the world? Why is he not here to save us? I ask you, why? When you've turned Buddhist, you realize that no matter what, peace is a quest you search for YOURSELF. Peace is might be just an illusion, but it gives you hope. Targeting Harry Potter isn't fair. You know what? I have no idea WHY I'm even talking to ing crap like you. My minister prayed to God and he answered after many months of asking God that he deems Harry Potter something suitable to read. If you can't accept that, then whatever, I'm in' outta here, you damn bastard.

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Give me a break   Monday, April 5, 2004 (4:47 p.m.) 

I respect your thoughts and opinions, but this is a site for SOUND TRACK DISSCUSSION. This is not an appropriate site to put your beliefs on how Harry Potter is Evil and it changes our morals, values and beliefs. It is obvious that you are very religious and believe in the fundamental principals in the bible, however not everyone takes the bible in the literal respect. Furthermore, much of the world DOES NOT go by the bible, and that is something you will have to accept. Lastly, Harry Potter is a representation of the struggle between good and evil (in which the good conquers the evil), and personally I cannot understand what you have against that.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Tuesday, April 20, 2004 (4:30 p.m.) 

First off, let me say, I love the both the film and the score. They perfectly capture the world that JK Rowling has created, which is what they've set out do.

Second, can't anyone just take the books for what they are? escape reading! I don't know a single person, child or otherwise, who would take these books literally. Even if someone did, they wouldn't be getting an accurate account of paganism and/or witchcraft at all. The references to magiks in these books are simple fantasy.

Lets hope this list gets back on topic, and that Williams does just as great a job with film three as he has with the previous two.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Wednesday, July 7, 2004 (5:30 p.m.) 

> This is a sound track web site, not a christian chat room. Take your comments some where else because OBVIOUSLY the people looking at this site love Harry Potter and are not going to change their minds, just like you and many other "Harry Potter is the Devil" believers will not change there minds. But really, COME ON! I've loved these books since they came out, im atheist, I love school and hate when people break the laws/rules any were, im well on my way to becoming a police officer, and have i ever thought about joining your idea of the 'devils way'. No. I suggest you get your head out of your arse, and get outside, go to the mall and talk to people, see there opinions and there way of life. GET a life. Its suprising that for a GOD believer you dont know the will of menkind. You can read something about witchcraft, it doesnt change your religion just by looking at the book. No! The decision about ones beliefs rest in that persons mind. So heres your homework for tonight little 'Harry Potter is evil' believers, tell me the relationship between the following two sentences: 1) If you sleep with your head in a book does it make you smarter while you sleep. and 2)looking at and reading the Harry Potter books makes you have tempting thoughts of turning to paganism/witchcraft. Get back to me i want to know your answers. Just remember people, you cant judge a book by its cover, and dont believe any thing any one else says until you have read it in a book and thought about YOUR opinion. Think about every thing i've said real well. Thank for reading this. XOXO Kimberly p.s. dont be narrow-minded, keep an open mind about EVERYTHING.

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how old are we?   Tuesday, October 26, 2004 (11:10 a.m.) 

Come on guys its freakn harry potter calm down

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Do you have any life   Tuesday, April 25, 2006 (7:49 p.m.) 

You again!?! How many refutals is it going to take? YOU SUCK, ok?!?. You still have not provided any proof to support your views! I hope that one day you will either get a proper life or have your current one taken from you. If god didn't want us to beileve in witchcraft, he wouldn't have let Rowling publish it would he?

HP doesn't make kids worship satan and you sshouldn't hate a story because "god say's it's evil" (i am still waiting for God to make a public anouncement saying this is the case anyway. Hashe actually said it's evil yet?).

Please get off this sight and off this planet. HP is not evil and it does cause us to worship satan. Goodbye.

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Hello Mr Gitty   Wednesday, April 26, 2006 (5:55 p.m.) 

Hello Mr Gitty,
We are here to inform you that you are a Gitty. I will spend the rest of this message telling you that you are a you are a Gitty. The reason why you are a Gitty is because you do things that you would only do if you are a Gitty. I am sorry that you are a Gitty but there is nothing I can do about it because you are a Gitty. Please accept that you are a Gitty and leave this world and go to a world where you are accepted if you are a Gitty.

With very little love,
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That was one reason not twelve   Sunday, May 21, 2006 (1:44 a.m.) 

OK, so you have the right to your opinion. But still, you only provided one reason: "It has something in it that the bible says is bad", and wrote that in twelve different ways. Honetly.

Just because it has the words "witchraft" and magic", doesn't mean its evil or anything. Please learn to relax. Rowling is not an outright satanist. If everybody was extremist as you seem to be, then nobody would hve any freedom of belief.

By the way, this is a site for FILM MUSIC. Let me run that past you again: FILM MUSIC! NOT christians versus harry, FILM MUSIC. Please post that stuff where there are people who wanted to talk about this subject, not where people come to talk about FILM MUSIC.


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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Thursday, July 13, 2006 (5:20 p.m.) 

> I mean this with the utmost respect for all of you. I ask that you respect
> me.

I understand. I am not going to just call you retarded. I still disagree with you, but I'm going to do it in a restrained manner.

You said that Harry Potter (HP) promotes "real and deadly" "timeless pagan practices". It does not. These practices do not exist. You also said "God tells us" that they are so. I do not believe God exists, nor do most people in the world. People have every right not to listen to him. Also, you have failed to provide proof of any of this. Unless god comes out and reveals himself to us all, I think we have reason not to listen.

Another point. HP does not have "power to change beliefs" and does not promote an "occult". Children do not have a "natural aversion to devious spirits" and do not attempt to enter a "forbidden world" (forbidden only to christians: you talk as though christianity is law and that all people must follow it. This is not the case. Religious freedom has been established).

You have every right not to read HP or watch the films, but you (and everyone else) also have the equal right to read/watch them. If you don't like HP, that's fine. But I do. Please don't attempt to make arguments with no basis in fact against issues tht do not exist.

P.S. This is not the site for this type of thing. This site is for soundtrack discussion. While a few posts of your nature were bound to show up, please refrain from helping them. Next time, post your info on a site about this issue.

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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Saturday, September 2, 2006 (9:08 p.m.) 

> I mean this with the utmost respect for all of you. I ask that you respect
> me.
Ok Buddy, you really don't get it. HP doesn't make us all satanists. It doesn't happen. I'll show you:

> 1. God shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are
> evil. He hates those practices because they blind us to His loving ways.

Does he? How come he hasn't told us so himself? In any case, I don't believe in either magic or God. This stuff isn't real.

> 2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its
> power to change beliefs and values.

Yes it does. Most sane people know the difference between the two and won't believe any of this stuff seriously, except perhaps little kids who grow out of it later.

> 3. Each occult image and enticing suggestion prompts the audience to feel
> more at home in the dark, paranormal setting. Children identify with their
> favorite characters and learn to see wizards and witches from a popular
> peer perspective rather than from God's perspective.

No they don't. Most people will not look at things fro God's perspective most of the time and no we don't feel at home in a dark paranormal setting.

> 4. God tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what
> is good." (Romans 12:9) But when Christian children and teens love
> the Harry Potter myths, delight in the movie and read the books again and
> again, they are desensitizing their hearts and minds to its evil. Turning
> God's truth upside down, they are learning to "love" what is
> evil. The natural next step is to reject God's wise boundaries and
> "abhor" what He calls good.

No it's not. Reading Harry won't open your mind to magic or evil. People just don't believe it exists.

> 5. Immersed in the values taught at Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and
> Wizardry, children become spiritually blind. They lose their natural
> aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols
> in this eerie world.

No they don't, as they have not natural aversion.

Anyway you get the idea. We just don't believe in magic.


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Re: 12 Reasons to avoid Harry Potter....hear me out   Saturday, September 2, 2006 (9:09 p.m.) 

That was only one reason said in 12 differnt ways: "God says its evil". What about us atheists? We don't believe in God or christianity or magic or anything supernatural and crap so this is not relevant to us.

Bye bye.


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You guys are targeting the wrong novel   Wednesday, January 10, 2007 (4:41 p.m.) 

Why are you all so afraid of Harry Potter? It's not even an attack on christianity!

I can't believe that so many people (I know, it's only a minority of christians, but there must be a few thousand out there) are against harry Potter, but practically nobody has any probelm with the fantasy series "His Dark Materials" by Phillip Pullman. That actually depicts the fall of God and the church and portrays the church as oppresive and evil. Yet nobody has a problem with that.

If you are going to attack fantasy novels go for that instead. But not here. This is a site for soundtrack discussion.


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Possible sensible solution to all this argument.   Thursday, January 25, 2007 (8:41 p.m.) 

> I mean this with the utmost respect for all of you. I ask that you respect
> me.

OK, fair enough. You have a right to that. I think that a lot of these posts are totally immature and disrespectful. I'm disappointed by a lot of them.

Anyway, here's my solution: I fully understand your concerns, but you have forgotten that not everyone takes religion a seriously as you do. Most people don't really care that much about religion.

Here's the bottom line: If you believe in God, then you can. I seriously doubt Harry is much of a threat. If you believe something else (be it atheism, or any other religion) strongly enough, then Harry Potter isn't going to change your beliefs anyway. If you don't really care, then this isn't going to motivate you to believe in magic.

As a result, no matter what you believe, it's very unlikely that Harry Potter will change your beliefs all that much. In any case, Harry Potter isn't designed to do that. I know that anything with magic will probably cause some opposition, but I hope that at least here, we can stop some of this pointless debate.

If you still have a problem, that's fine, I respect that, but I don't advise posting what you did. All it does is start an argument. I mean, nothing like that (or any other post here) is going to change other people's fundamental beliefs, because if they believe something strongly enough, nothing you can do will change it. If they don't care, then its very hard to make them care.



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