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Plagiarism...

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Plagiarism...   Sunday, January 14, 2007 (10:30 p.m.) 

Great review as always, but certain phrases sound strangely similar to this review here:
http://www.reelviews.net/movies/d/departed.html

I'm kind if disappointed that you had to resort to plagiarism...


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Re: Plagiarism...   Monday, January 15, 2007 (5:42 p.m.) 
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> I'm kind if disappointed that you had to resort to plagiarism...

Um... I do like Berardinelli's movie reviews and probably read his review of The Departed at some point, but other than the common use of "Boston's Irish American community" and the description of Internal Affairs as being "B-grade" (which apparently isn't popular with some), I don't see where the word "plagiarism" is warranted... especially given that what I wrote is essentially a score review and not an extended commentary about the film.

I can't decide whether to be amused or offended!

Christian



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Re: Plagiarism...   Monday, January 15, 2007 (10:58 p.m.) 

> Um... I do like Berardinelli's movie reviews and probably read his review
> of The Departed at some point, but other than the common use of
> "Boston's Irish American community" and the description of
> Internal Affairs as being "B-grade" (which apparently isn't
> popular with some), I don't see where the word "plagiarism" is
> warranted... especially given that what I wrote is essentially a score
> review and not an extended commentary about the film.

> I can't decide whether to be amused or offended!

> Christian

Compare your phrase:

"In The Departed, he incorporates the Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter"
for the third time (after Goodfellas and Casino) and Van Morrison's
cover of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" during a key scene."

to his:

"For the third time in his career, Scorsese uses the Rolling Stones'
"Gimme Shelter" (see also Goodfellas and Casino). He also employs a
cover of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" during a key sequence."

The "B-Grade" comment kind of set off my familiarity alarm, and that phrase just cemented it for me. I don't mean to accuse you (I respect and enjoy reading your music criticism very much) but the direct reuse of such similar wording just seemed strange to me.


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Re: Plagiarism...   Thursday, January 18, 2007 (5:48 p.m.) 

> Compare your phrase:

> "In The Departed, he incorporates the Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter"
> for the third time (after Goodfellas and Casino) and Van Morrison's
> cover of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" during a key scene."

> to his:

> "For the third time in his career, Scorsese uses the Rolling Stones'
> "Gimme Shelter" (see also Goodfellas and Casino). He also employs a
> cover of Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" during a key sequence."

> The "B-Grade" comment kind of set off my familiarity alarm, and
> that phrase just cemented it for me. I don't mean to accuse you (I respect
> and enjoy reading your music criticism very much) but the direct reuse of
> such similar wording just seemed strange to me.

It might be one of those subconscious memory connections that people make when writing something similar to what they had previously read. At least Clemmensen's version is more detailed.

Clemmensen still gets pounded by his own readership more than anybody as prolific on the WWW that I've ever seen. Its no wonder that the other review sites balk at the idea of these comment sections. I've never seen a writer get nitpicked to death as much as at this site.



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