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• Posted by: Chris Tilton   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2001, at 6:36 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: LOL!! (Jim Harris)

>after being humiliated for your blatant lack of knowledge about music

Actually I'll be graduating from college with a bachelor of music in composition. I'm 21 and I've been studying and listening to music for over half my life, classical music and film scores alike. Now that that's out of the way...

>When a composer makes a bad score does not mean he's an idiot

You're absolutely right, James Horner is not an idiot. I was just pissed off at the time for his blatant borrowing of material, which he does so often. I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank, but I still think he's a horrible composer.

>he's even cleverer >that would be "more clever" he doesn't spend much time inventing a new theme (why, if he's payed the same

That's true, but because of that I have absolutely no respect for him as a composer, and I'm sure many others feel the same way. He certainly has every right to sell out and get rid of his dignity.

>Do you know anything about his career? Did you know that he won an Academy >Award for his world wide recognized effort for scoring "Titanic"?

Of course I know that, but as we all know, you don't have to be "good" to win an academy award. You only have to be well marketed. That's certainly doesn't mean that everyone that get's an award doesn't deserve it, some certainly do. Generally though, it's because the film or person up for the award was marketed to the academy really well.

>Have you ever listend to the score of "Glory"?

Yes I have, the first part of the main theme is stolen, note for note, from Prokofiev's "Ivan the Terrible."

>if you ask well-informed people, they'll tell you it's a
>classic masterpiece of the genre.

What well-informed people would these be? Certainly anyone that knows anything about classical music will tell you that it's nothing but borrowings from other people, especially the obvious "O Fortuna" rip off during the final battle. That's of course in addition to all the themes he's stolen from Prokofiev. Yes, he steals an aweful lot from him. I wouldn't mind if he used his styles, but he takes Prokofiev's melodies and claims them as his own. That, in my opinion, is just wrong.

>So shut up your mouth and let the adults debate about this.

Oh, how adult of you to say. I'll be awaiting your "cleverer" response.

Comments in this Thread:     Expand >>
  • LOL!!  (8004 views)
       Chris Tilton - Monday, February 19, 2001, at 8:43 a.m.
    •    Chris Tilton thinks he is a better composer.  (7876 views)
         P.J, Naiztat - Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 2:11 p.m.
    •    Re: LOL!!  (7671 views)
         Andy - Wednesday, February 21, 2001, at 2:29 a.m.
      •    Re: LOL!!  (7718 views)
           Chris Tilton - Wednesday, February 21, 2001, at 6:09 a.m.
        •    Re: LOL!!  (7441 views)
             Jim Harris - Wednesday, March 21, 2001, at 5:27 p.m.
          •      Re: LOL!!  (7184 views)    We're Here
               Chris Tilton - Wednesday, March 21, 2001, at 6:36 p.m.
            •    Re: LOL!!  (7272 views)
                 Jim Harris - Thursday, March 22, 2001, at 1:37 p.m.
              •    Re: LOL!!  (7229 views)
                   Chris Tilton - Thursday, March 22, 2001, at 2:00 p.m.
        •    Re: LOL!!  (7093 views)
             Matt Price - Friday, March 16, 2001, at 5:47 p.m.
          •    Re: LOL!!  (7064 views)
               Chris Tilton - Friday, March 16, 2001, at 6:44 p.m.
            •    Re: LOL!!  (7234 views)
                 Matt Price - Saturday, March 31, 2001, at 4:53 p.m.
              •    Re: LOL!!  (7397 views)
                   Chris Tilton - Saturday, March 31, 2001, at 7:31 p.m.
        •    Re: LOL!!  (7492 views)
             Christian Afonso - Thursday, February 22, 2001, at 2:23 p.m.

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