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sigh...   Wednesday, December 30, 2015 (8:11 p.m.) 
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Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5 stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive fan-boying.



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Re: sigh...   Wednesday, December 30, 2015 (8:43 p.m.) 

> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

lol, Filmtracks gave the last SW score 4 stars! So much for that ...


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Re: sigh...   Wednesday, December 30, 2015 (8:52 p.m.) 

> lol, Filmtracks gave the last SW score 4 stars! So much for that ...

Well aware. My case is based on the overall statistic. Wow, one missing star in six* prior flicks. My case extends to the Lord of the Rings / The Hobbit mega-franchise.


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Re: sigh...   Wednesday, December 30, 2015 (9:33 p.m.) 

> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

You can tl;dr that review if you want but it has some excellent comparisons between the album versions even if you don't like the opinion parts. Your loss.



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sigh... *NM*   Thursday, December 31, 2015 (8:24 a.m.) 



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Re: sigh...   Thursday, December 31, 2015 (4:25 p.m.) 

> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

I don't really understand your issue on this. Williams received 5 star reviews for his SW work from Filmtracks because it's showing excellent achievement in film music. They are great scores. Each one.



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Re: sigh...   Thursday, December 31, 2015 (5:15 p.m.) 

> I don't really understand your issue on this. Williams received 5 star
> reviews for his SW work from Filmtracks because it's showing excellent
> achievement in film music. They are great scores. Each one.

That may very well be the case, but there are 7 of these things now and out of a possible grand total of 35 stars, it's only one star imperfect? Come on!? And again, same issue with LOTR / Hobbit. Mega-franchises are simply graded more favourably (to put it mildly).


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Re: sigh...   Friday, January 1, 2016 (12:54 p.m.) 

> That may very well be the case, but there are 7 of these things now and
> out of a possible grand total of 35 stars, it's only one star imperfect?
> Come on!? And again, same issue with LOTR / Hobbit. Mega-franchises are
> simply graded more favourably (to put it mildly).

Except for The Dark Knight series, Hunger Games, The Marvel Cinematic Universe, Jurassic Park, Spider Man, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean.

I can't even think of distant 3rd to compare with LOTR or Star Wars when it comes to concepts, executions, especially consistency.



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Re: sigh...   Friday, January 1, 2016 (3:03 p.m.) 

> Except for The Dark Knight series, Hunger Games, The Marvel Cinematic
> Universe, Jurassic Park, Spider Man, Harry Potter, Pirates of the
> Caribbean.

> I can't even think of distant 3rd to compare with LOTR or Star Wars when
> it comes to concepts, executions, especially consistency.

But you don't deny that this is what's happening with Star Wars and LOTR / Hobbit (at least). It doesn't matter that you can't name a third example. The two I mentioned are enough. And perhaps those you've mentioned just forgot to payola.

And if a composer's work is so consistently great within a given franchise, why not throughout his career?


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Re: sigh...   Friday, January 1, 2016 (4:07 p.m.) 

> But you don't deny that this is what's happening with Star Wars and LOTR /
> Hobbit (at least). It doesn't matter that you can't name a third example.
> The two I mentioned are enough. And perhaps those you've mentioned just
> forgot to payola.

> And if a composer's work is so consistently great within a given
> franchise, why not throughout his career?

Tina's 'Human Hole Anatomy and Physiology' posting makes more sense then you!!


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Re: sigh...   Friday, January 1, 2016 (6:15 p.m.) 

> Tina's 'Human Hole Anatomy and Physiology' posting makes more sense then
> you!!

Oh, really? Prove that assertion. How so?


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Human Hole Anatomy and Physiology   Thursday, December 31, 2015 (8:32 p.m.) 

> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

Turning now to Human Hole Anatomy and Physiology...

Robert is young, and inexperienced. He's only twenty-seven. He suddenly turns with anger when confronted by innocent holes. When seeing them, he releases a long, pondering hiss. Gazing down into the orchestra, turned now, flushing darkly, he says, "I will write librettos with my toes!"


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What 2015 scores, in your opinion, deserve 5 stars then? [EDITED]   Tuesday, January 5, 2016 (1:53 p.m.) 

Because I'm struggling to think of any major score from 2015 that comes close to The Force Awakens.

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Re: What 2015 scores, in your opinion, deserve 5 stars then?   Tuesday, January 5, 2016 (5:15 p.m.) 
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> Because I'm struggling to think of any major score from 2015 that comes
> close to The Force Awakens.

I have no idea. To think I have to know this or answer this in order to balance out my initial comment is a fallacy. It could very well be that John Williams actually deserves his 5 stars for this score, but that's beside the point.


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Re: What 2015 scores, in your opinion, deserve 5 stars then?   Friday, January 8, 2016 (4:24 a.m.) 

> It could very well be that
> John Williams actually deserves his 5 stars for this score, but that's
> beside the point.

Wait, what? No, that's exactly the point! You can't complain about the score getting five stars if you also think it deserves five stars. There's very obviously nothing "automatic" about the rating - or did you not actually read the many, many arguments backing that rating up?


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Re: What 2015 scores, in your opinion, deserve 5 stars then?   Tuesday, March 15, 2016 (9:03 p.m.) 

> Because I'm struggling to think of any major score from 2015 that comes
> close to The Force Awakens.

Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation and Tomorrowland. Easily.


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Re: What 2015 scores, in your opinion, deserve 5 stars then? [EDITED TWICE]   Thursday, April 7, 2016 (5:20 p.m.) 

> Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation and Tomorrowland. Easily.

Mission Impossible is a solid and commendable score but Michael 'Two-Chord' Giacchino's Tomorrowland is simplistic and generic to the point of being relatively poor. The Force Awakens wipes the floor with both of them.


(Message edited on Thursday, April 7, 2016, at 5:27 p.m. and Thursday, April 7, 2016, at 5:29 p.m.)


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Re: sigh...   Tuesday, March 15, 2016 (8:57 p.m.) 

> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

I have to agree. This score sits in the 3 to 4 star range, no higher, no lower. Reading through the review gave me a new appreciation for Rey's theme, but not much beyond that. Really, there's nothing that sticks in the memory apart from thematic offerings for Kylo Ren and Rey. Not terribly surprising, since the movie itself went to virtually no lengths in providing imagination.



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Re: sigh...   Saturday, November 12, 2016 (6:05 p.m.) 
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> Yet another automatic 5-star review for Star Wars. At this point Williams
> can just phone it in for the next ones and they'll each get an automatic 5
> stars. Considering the tldr nature of this review, it would seem as though
> a lot of thought was put into it, but it can all just be massive
> fan-boying.

Sorry to drudge this from the depths, but this is a fucking stupid argument you're making.
So you're admitting you didn't read the entire review, but just by looking at the star rating you assumed it was a carefree analysis, when there are arguments within it that criticize the score as well as praising it. If the reviewer gave the score five stars, it's his choice.



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