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Re: Some interesting things about this score
• Posted by: Mike
• Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, at 2:45 p.m.
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• In Response to: Some interesting things about this score (Dan McDevitt)

> By now you may or may not have heard, but Nicholas Hooper will not be back
> for Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows. In the piece I read, he said
> he had dropped off the project, saying it impinged on his life and family
> too much. While I'm sure that's true, a couple of things make me think
> there might actually be more two it than that.

> In the Half-Blood Prince film, the scene at Fred and George's shop is
> covered with an exact reprise of "Fireworks" from "Order of
> the Phoenix." Curiously, this music doesn't appear on the soundtrack,
> but a different piece, "Wizard Wheezes," which was clearly
> written for this scene (it's the name of the shop) does. Why would the new
> piece (which is one of the memorable ones on the new score, really) be
> replaced by an old one by the man who composed it? Further,
> "Fireworks" appears again over the end credits, a wildly
> inappropriate placement of that music considering how dark things are when
> the movie ends. It smells like someone had issue with the music Hooper
> wrote and these changes were made because of that. (and I highly doubt it
> was David Yates)

> Less significant I suppose is the appearance of "Room of
> Requirement" during the quidditch tryouts, which also doesn't appear
> on the score album. As noted in the review, bits of that piece appear in
> "Living Death", but it's a full-out reprise in the later scene.
> There doesn't appear to be anything on the album that it replaced, though.
> Still, in combination with the appearance of "Fireworks," I have
> to wonder if the studio or producers were dictating changes, and Hooper
> didn't want to work under those conditions. Or the studio decided they
> wanted someone else, or some combination thereof.

> I think Hooper's music is quite good on its own and has some real beauty,
> but I agree that as the connective tissue for a film (series) this epic it
> lacks. There are no really memorable pieces on the Half-Blood Prince
> soundtrack (except possibly "Wizard Wheezes," as noted above.)
> The score for Order of the Phoenix had both the Umbridge and Room of
> Requirement/Dumbledore's Army themes, but this new score has virtually
> nothing that sticks with you like that. However, I do really like the love
> theme for Harry and Ginny and I hope the new composer sticks with it. It's
> very tender but tinged with sadness, which is precisely appropriate given
> the conditions under which their romance blossoms.

> I blame this in part at least on David Yates, whose forté as a director is
> clearly the smaller, more emotional parts, and who hasn't yet shown any
> aptitude for anything that is epic or action-oriented. He continues to
> treat the Harry Potter films as small character studies and had Hooper
> write music to that effect. Read the liner notes of the album and you'll
> see what I mean. (in fairness, Yates' treatment is exactly why all the
> character development in this film is so well done. It just hurts in other
> areas.)

> Producer David Heyman has stated they're trying to see if the schedules
> fits to get John Williams back for the two Deathly Hallows movies. I have
> some reservations about that. Having recently re-watched the first two
> movies, the music is really overdone. Some of that is no doubt
> attributable to Chris Columbus, but Williams to me has seemed past his
> prime for some time. His scores for "Revenge of the Sith" and
> "Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls" were pretty bad. The music for
> "Prisoner of Azkaban" was fantastic, but it also was a complete
> disconnect from the music from the prior two scores, and he mostly wrote
> it scene-to-scene rather than thematically (much like Hooper in that
> regard.)

> I'd love to see Patrick Doyle back with the caveat that he does a better
> job incorporating Williams' key themes into the overall score. Whoever it
> is, they're going to have a heck of a task trying to put together
> something worthy of the final story. Most of important of all, they simply
> cannot continue to ignore "Hedwig's Theme," which remains the
> musical identity of the film series.

i'm sorry Patrick Doyle did what? are you kidding me? Doyle's score never quoted any of Williams themes or motifs, there was a half assed version of Hedwig's theme in the opening but that was it

Hooper's superior scores not only quotes the themes, but even remembered the brass motif from the Quidditch match from the 3rd movie.

i am so sick of all this Hooper bashing. why don't you guys form a club and hang and piss on the score all day, because it seems that's all you people love to do

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