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Comments about the soundtrack for Inception (Hans Zimmer)

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Re: I get what Zimmer is trying to do.
• Posted by: cldesa   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, at 12:24 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: I get what Zimmer is trying to do. (Jack)

> That doesn't change the fact that on sheet music it is simple. You can
> harangue all you want about subjectivity but,on paper and in the score,
> it's simple. Listening to the score and hearing it is not subjective cause
> what you hear is judged on what is heard not the feeling of what is heard
> therefore making the "subjectivity" void. I'm not expressing my
> perspective when listening to the score I simply listen. You can say his
> stuff is boring because if you want to sit and listen to droning
> Vuvuzuela's all day and call it "subjective art" be my guest but
> don't give this straw man argument about how we can't understand the music
> because it's "subjective art." That's elitism and it's a BS
> statement.

> When I listen to Inception I don't "feel" the score is boring. I
> hear that the score is boring because of it's droning and redundant
> Zimmer-isms heard in scores past compounded yet again into Hans Zimmer's
> "creativity." John William's creates elaborate scores with
> beautiful theme's and complex melodies and themes that are not only
> interesting but entertaining to listen to. Hans Zimmer over the past
> couple scores like The Burning Plain, The Dark Knight, and Inception has
> proven beyond a doubt that he is insane if he calls this complex. This is
> not one iota more complex that John Williams on sheet music. And I play
> his music on my piano. Hans Zimmer's scores, which I also play, are
> remarkably simple ,and while they are effective on screen, they are just
> forgettable. I give it about to the end of the year for people to get over
> the hangover of a Zimmer score.

I disagree. Music as a cohesive whole is entirely subjective. If your perceptions are not applied to it, it's simply an amalgamation of soundwaves; whether your brain interprets those soundwave masses as pleasurable is entirely subjective. "Droning" and "redundant" are subjective terms; for example, what classifies a redundant sound? Two repetitions? Ten? Five hundred? Even if you were able to quantify simplicity and complexity, it can not be used as evidence towards determining whether something is boring. You could compose a piece with thousands of instrumental layers, but it would not necessarily convey more emotion or be more interesting than a simple one-handed piano melody. Eventually, complexity just becomes noise. The entire world might conclude that a particular score is boring; unfortunately, 6.5 billion subjective opinions do not equal an objective one.

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