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Not orchestrated by williams

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Not orchestrated by williams   Thursday, May 29, 2003 (8:54 p.m.) 

Above it indicates that the music was composed, conducted and orchestrated by williams. To the best of this reviewers knowledge, the music was orchestrated by john neufeld, conrad pope, and alexander courage. Just a point in fact.

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You're not quite right   Thursday, June 5, 2003 (1:53 p.m.) 

NOPE, it was
John Neufeld and Alexander Courage.

Conrad Pope was not orchestrator for JP, but he orcherated EPISODE I

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Re: You're not quite right   Saturday, June 7, 2003 (10:12 p.m.) 

Sorry Mark, I am right, Conrad Pope was an orchestrator for Jurassic Park. Without watching the title scroll can't say if he was given credit but he did orchestrate, even if just a little-trust me.

NOPE, it was
John Neufeld and Alexander Courage.
Conrad Pope was not orchestrator for JP, but he orcherated EPISODE I
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Re: You're not quite right   Monday, June 9, 2003 (5:54 a.m.) 

how can you be so sure.....

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Re: You're not quite right   Tuesday, June 10, 2003 (7:59 p.m.) 

how can you be so sure.....

I've seen the score. It looks as though it's one cue and he only orchestrated half of it.

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Re: You're not quite right   Thursday, June 12, 2003 (9:39 p.m.) 

oops, my bad...there are a couple of cues that conrad pope orchestrated. there's also some music that was never used for the film and never ended up on the album. mysteriously only titled 11M2. Not sure where it goes. Not sure who cares.

> how can you be so sure.....

> I've seen the score. It looks as though it's one cue and he only
> orchestrated half of it.


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11M2   Tuesday, July 6, 2004 (1:37 a.m.) 

> oops, my bad...there are a couple of cues that conrad pope orchestrated.
> there's also some music that was never used for the film and never ended
> up on the album. mysteriously only titled 11M2. Not sure where it goes.
> Not sure who cares.

For those who do not know, the title of "11M2" is not so misterious really... composers do not score a film the way you hear it on CD. They score directly to a full cut of the film (a bit more than 70 minutes). Each scene has a musical "cue" which is titled based on its position in the film, the themes presented, editing stop and start points, etc.

11M2 probably means something like "scene 11, measure 2 start point" (thats just a wild speculation to illustrate the point)

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Re: 11M2   Friday, October 7, 2005 (11:55 a.m.) 

11M2 means "Reel11, part 2" (2nd cue of reel 11)

> 11M2 probably means something like "scene 11, measure 2 start
> point" (thats just a wild speculation to illustrate the point)


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Re: 11M2   Friday, July 28, 2006 (8:20 p.m.) 

"11M2 means "Reel11, part 2" (2nd cue of reel 11)"

Yes, Michael, this is just a simple misunderstanding, on your part, as to how hollywood deals with labeling cues. 11 is the reel number, and 2 means it's the second music cue to occur in that reel (a reel being 10-15 minutes). The "M" simply means it's a music cue. I was only making a point that there was music written for the film, that didn't end up in the film, and labeled 11M2. That's all the score indicated.

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Re: 11M2   Wednesday, April 15, 2009 (2:01 a.m.) 

11M2 is "Preparing to Meet the Monster." Says so right on the score.

11m1 however has no written name on the score, but for those of us familiar enough with the score, we know it to be "System Ready."

The Full cue list is:
01. 1m1a Opening Titles
02. 1m1b The Island Incident
03. 1m2 The Encased Mosquito
04. 2m1 The Entrance of Mr. Hammond
05. 2m2 Que Milagros Chapparita (Source Cue)
06. 2m3 To the Island
07. 3m1 Record Intro- ie: Album Intro to "Theme from Jurassic Park"
08. 3m2 The Dinosaurs
09. 3m2a The Entrance to the Park
10. 3m3 Cartoon Demonstration
11. 4m1 Hatching Baby Raptors
12. 4m2 You Bred Raptors
13. 5m1 The History Lesson
14. 5m2 Jurassic Park Gate
15. 5m3 Goat Bait (Unused)
16. 6m1 An Ailing Monster
17. 6m2 A Storm is Coming
18. 7m1 Dennis Steals the Embryos
19. 8m1 The Trouble with Dennis
20. 9m1 The Falling Car
21. 9m2 The T-Rex Chase
22. 9m3 A Tree for my Bed
23. 10m1 Remembering Petticoat Lane
24. 10m2 My Friend, The Brachiosaurus
25. 10m3 Eggs in the Forest
26. 11m1 System Ready
27. 11m2 Preparing to Meet the Monster
28. 12m1 High Wire Stunts
29. 12m2 Hungry Raptor/ Clever Girl (Partially Unused)
30. 13m1 Into the Kitchen (Mostly Unused)
31. 13m2 March Past the Kitchen Utensils
32. 14m1 T-rex to the Rescue
33. 14m2 End Credits Part I/ 14m2 End Credits Part II

Notice that a space is left for the single source cue, "Que Milagros Chaparrita" which is played in the cantina where Nedry meets Dodgeson. (2m2). This was recorded specifically for the film.

With "3m1" being the alternate opening to "The Dinosaurs" written specifically for the Album to make it into a stand alone piece. It was written during the recording sessions by Williams. It's the familiar solo horn intro then going into winds and then into the somber JP Dinosaurs theme. (the album name: "Theme from Jurassic Park").

The End Credits is written as one cue, but the latter half (with much deciding as the score showed) is marked where they pick up and is on the album as "Welcome To Jurassic Park" and has the same recording in "End Credits."



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Re: 11M2   Friday, September 25, 2009 (1:25 a.m.) 

it's also hard to see the cue titles on the score due to the fact that they appears outside the scan area - if it werent for the page that says which cue is which (those that begins new sections with an index list) then i would be completely lost whereas the name were

but i hate to say it but the scan quality is very bad - at size 200% it is beginning to be a little unclear.


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