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Theory about the rare use of FOTR/TTT themes

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Theory about the rare use of FOTR/TTT themes   Thursday, November 27, 2003 (12:21 p.m.) 

It occured to me that Shore might have specifically written his ROTK contribution with little influence of Fellowship/Two Towers themes because he wanted to get another nomination for "best ORIGINAL score" (and possibly even the Oscar itself). Remember: He didn't get nominated this year because TTT used a large amount of FOTR themes and therefore didn't qualify as an ORIGINAL soundtrack.

Thoughts?

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Re: Theory about the rare use of FOTR/TTT themes   Thursday, November 27, 2003 (12:55 p.m.) 

> It occured to me that Shore might have specifically written his ROTK
> contribution with little influence of Fellowship/Two Towers themes because
> he wanted to get another nomination for "best ORIGINAL score"
> (and possibly even the Oscar itself). Remember: He didn't get nominated
> this year because TTT used a large amount of FOTR themes and therefore
> didn't qualify as an ORIGINAL soundtrack.

> Thoughts?

What I believe is that Shore DID indeed, use those themes IN THE MOVIE, since they are the emotional core of the whole score, as the gondor theme will also become. But there's no reason to sell a soundtrack that focuses only on previously released songs. It makes more sense to believe he wants to focus this album on the new themes. Leaving the known ones only in the movie.

It would be grat if they decide to release the full soundtrack someday.



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yes that is my opinion as well   Thursday, November 27, 2003 (7:10 p.m.) 

Ever since that stupid stupid Oscar decision, I've expected the ROTK soundtrack to keep the repitition of previous themes to a minimum

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Re: Theory about the rare use of FOTR/TTT themes   Sunday, November 30, 2003 (4:00 p.m.) 

> It occured to me that Shore might have specifically written his ROTK
> contribution with little influence of Fellowship/Two Towers themes because
> he wanted to get another nomination for "best ORIGINAL score"
> (and possibly even the Oscar itself). Remember: He didn't get nominated
> this year because TTT used a large amount of FOTR themes and therefore
> didn't qualify as an ORIGINAL soundtrack.

> Thoughts?

I do not think that is the reason for the sparse use of previous themes. The overall themes of The Return of the King story is the loss of the past and maturing. You'll see this in the hobbits especially (without giving away any spoilers). Aragorn is assuming kingship, so his theme is transforming to the Gondorian theme we heard for Boromir when he talked about the ring at the council and when he and Aragorn spoke of Minas Tirith in Lothlorien.

When you do hear the Fellowship theme again near the end of the score, that is because the fellowship is reunited in the story. But the theme is not as vibrant or energetic when it was first introduced because the characters have been through a lot and are not the same. I can't say much more without tossing out spoilers, but if you've had any lifechanging moment where your perspective has changed and you cannot see how you viewed things the way you did before that moment, then this is the kind of change I'm referring to for the characters. And it's this change that is mirrored in Shore's music for the third film.

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