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lackluster performance by the Sinfonia of London?????

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lackluster performance by the Sinfonia of London?????   Saturday, July 26, 2003 (4:48 p.m.) 

Do you even LISTEN to the CDS before reviewing them?

This along with the major factual errors in this review reduce it to a joke.

To say that this Orchestra's performance is Lacking is just plain insane.

What are you smoking up there

Ford A. Thaxton

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Sorry Christian, but I have to agree with Ford here.   Saturday, July 26, 2003 (6:09 p.m.) 

I generally agree with every review you write, But your opinions on this score and Sinbad I are quite unsual.
I found this Lost in Space to be very ecxiting, I used to listen to it all the time at full volume in my projection booth, and got the same kinda thrills as when listen to Empire Strikes Back. The only thing I missed was strong memorable themes. But other than that ... there is nothing wrong with the music of Lost in Space. Its better than 90% of the stuff today.

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Re: Sorry Christian, but I have to agree with Ford here.   Sunday, July 27, 2003 (6:12 a.m.) 

> got the same kinda thrills as when listen to Empire Strikes Back. The only thing I missed was strong memorable themes.

Absolutely true about "no memorables themes", so I cant understand the relation with EMPIRE... O, yes, it's symphonic, neoromantic, postwilliams and all that...

> It is quite baffling to me that anyone would find this score less than
> enjoyable.

An average score from a composer that once was very promising (days of SILVERADO, BABY'S DAY OUT, TOMBSTONE, YOUNG HOLMES, FOR LOVE OR MONEY seem to be gone). Sorry, but many people I know think that (and I am not a sexteen-year-old "TITANIc and MEDIAVENTURES" new soundtrack fan).

The real problem here is that Brouhgton makes such old fashioned music that it doesnt fit weel with that kind of film these days (EP I and II are exceptions to the rule).


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Re: Sorry Christian, but I have to agree with Ford here.   Monday, July 28, 2003 (4:52 a.m.) 

I have to say I'm pretty happy to hear the scorefans like this one. I loved it the second I heard it in the theatre. The movie gets a bashing regularly and maybe it deserves it (I enjoyed it enough to see it 7 times, so there) but the score was moving and exciting. I would have loved an orchestral update of the LIS theme instead of the techno version, but in all it was a grand score which really sold the more iffy parts of the plot. I mean, going through the planet is kind of redicuous, but the music made it extremely exciting. Will and John's closure was made more emotional and I found the spiders more chilling thanks to Broughton.

So, I'd give it four stars, absolutely.

> Absolutely true about "no memorables themes", so I cant
> understand the relation with EMPIRE... O, yes, it's symphonic,
> neoromantic, postwilliams and all that...

> An average score from a composer that once was very promising (days of
> SILVERADO, BABY'S DAY OUT, TOMBSTONE, YOUNG HOLMES, FOR LOVE OR MONEY seem
> to be gone). Sorry, but many people I know think that (and I am not a
> sexteen-year-old "TITANIc and MEDIAVENTURES" new soundtrack
> fan).

> The real problem here is that Brouhgton makes such old fashioned music
> that it doesnt fit weel with that kind of film these days (EP I and II are
> exceptions to the rule).


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I must agree here.   Sunday, July 27, 2003 (3:13 a.m.) 

> Do you even LISTEN to the CDS before reviewing them?

> This along with the major factual errors in this review reduce it to a
> joke.

> To say that this Orchestra's performance is Lacking is just plain insane.

> What are you smoking up there

> Ford A. Thaxton

I agree. To state that the performance is lacklustre is quite simply ridiculous. This is a marvellous, exciting science fiction score, with an outstanding performance by the Sinfonia of London.

It is quite baffling to me that anyone would find this score less than enjoyable.

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Re: lackluster performance by the Sinfonia of London?????   Sunday, July 27, 2003 (10:36 a.m.) 

I must admit, I thought the performance was excellent. Very difficult music to play - and they pulled it off brilliantly.

I love this score.

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In this case, the performance of the orchestra doesn't really matter.   Monday, July 28, 2003 (5:02 a.m.) 

I mean, this score is a light listen for in between, nothing bad, but nothing special either. I don't think it is worth arguing about a "lackluster performance" here. It may be right (though I really like the Sinfonia of London), but I don't care ...

Well, that's only my humble opinion.

np: "Young Sherlock Holmes" by Bruce Broughton

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Perhaps you should consider reading the review MORE CAREFULLY next time, Ford.   Monday, July 28, 2003 (9:49 a.m.) 

> Do you even LISTEN to the CDS before reviewing them?

Sometimes. On other occasions, I consult the psychic hotline and get their opinion on the matter first... especially when reviewing your albums!


> This along with the major factual errors in this review reduce it to a joke.

[note to all: As many of you know, when you go to post comments at Filmtracks, it says in bold letters "Review corrections should be sent to Filmtracks by e-mail!" ...Ford, of course, didn't read the instructions. I e-mailed him and requested that he detail the 'major factual errors' in the review and he has been unwilling or unable to respond. Thus, I've turned the review over to Intrada and will get the verdict directly from them. In the meantime, I'd suggest disregarding Ford's rants as emotional reactions rather than constructive criticism. What else is new....]

You may be interested to know, Ford, that most of the factual info in this particular review came from Broughton in an interview.


> To say that this Orchestra's performance is Lacking is just plain insane.

Read more carefully: "...a sometimes lackluster performance by the Sinfonia of London in portions of the score..."

That doesn't mean that they are lackluster during the whole performance. In fact, they lack only in three or four action cues. Get it right next time before raising a stink.


> What are you smoking up there

Obviously not the same thing you're smoking down there.

You are an exceedingly frustrating individual, Ford. I don't care if you disagree with the opinion, but before you continue spreading ill word about my site in other venues, I suggest you get your facts straight.

Christian



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Re: Perhaps you should consider reading the review MORE CAREFULLY next time, Ford.   Monday, July 28, 2003 (11:46 a.m.) 

> Read more carefully: "...a sometimes lackluster performance by the
> Sinfonia of London in portions of the score..."

> That doesn't mean that they are lackluster during the whole performance.
> In fact, they lack only in three or four action cues. Get it right next
> time before raising a stink.

Would it be possible to tell me exactly where on the album the performance seems lackluster to you? I'm just curious. As a dude who's been playing in many different orchestras for 10+ years or so- I know what a lackluster performance sounds like- and while Broughton's score is very challenging in spots (in particular some of the action cues) I thought the Sinfonia did a phenomenal job. You mention these portions lacking energy- do you really think this is due to a bad performance or rather due to bad orchestration?

I remember I didn't like Lost in Space when I bought the TVT album back on the day it was released- but I grew to really like it- and then when I received the Intrada album- it became one of my top 50 favorite scores ever- definitely my favorite Broughton score. It's the perfect demonstration of Broughton's sound- the brightness and fluff of John Williams mixed with the ballsy rhythmic agressiveness of Jerry Goldsmith- he's the best of both worlds. Both the robot attack cue and the spider chase cue have influenced a lot of my own work. But to each his own, I guess, and that's definitely the case with me and you, Christian.

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Re: Perhaps you should consider reading the review MORE CAREFULLY next time, Ford.   Monday, July 28, 2003 (4:58 p.m.) 

> Would it be possible to tell me exactly where on the album the performance
> seems lackluster to you? I'm just curious. As a dude who's been playing in
> many different orchestras for 10+ years or so- I know what a lackluster
> performance sounds like

What instrument do you play?

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Re: Perhaps you should consider reading the review MORE CAREFULLY next time, Ford.   Tuesday, July 29, 2003 (8:07 a.m.) 

> What instrument do you play?

Timpani and percussion

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Re: As I suspected, I received confirmation on the facts and Thaxton is wrong   Tuesday, July 29, 2003 (8:37 a.m.) 

> > This along with the major factual errors in this review reduce it to a joke.

> [note to all: As many of you know, when you go to post comments at
> Filmtracks, it says in bold letters "Review corrections should be
> sent to Filmtracks by e-mail!" ...Ford, of course, didn't read the
> instructions. I e-mailed him and requested that he detail the 'major
> factual errors' in the review and he has been unwilling or unable to
> respond. Thus, I've turned the review over to Intrada and will get the
> verdict directly from them. In the meantime, I'd suggest disregarding
> Ford's rants as emotional reactions rather than constructive criticism.
> What else is new....]

Straight from the source, I confirmed that there were no "major factual errors" in the Lost in Space review. I had forgotten about Mark Isham's involvement in the project in between Goldsmith and Broughton, so I inserted him in the intro information. Other than that omission, the review is fine. Thaxton obviously disagrees with the opinion to such an extent that he claims it a "joke" due to "major factual errors."

I challenged him on it, and he has chosen to be silent. That says quite a lot to me.

Thaxton: let your logic do the typing next time, not your emotions.

Christian



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