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about the title Neodämmerung

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about the title Neodämmerung   Wednesday, September 24, 2003 (2:18 p.m.) 

the title Neodämmerung is certainly derived from Richard Wagner's opera Götterdämmerung - the last opera of the famous Ring cycle. google it to find what it means... =)

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Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Saturday, September 27, 2003 (6:59 a.m.) 

> the title Neodämmerung is certainly derived from Richard Wagner's opera
> Götterdämmerung - the last opera of the famous Ring cycle. google it to
> find what it means... =)

It seems very logical. I've read in one Davis' interview that he was comparing Matrix trilogy as a musical piece consisted from 3 movements of orchestra and Matrix universum full of mythology (where characters has mythological names etc.) to some Wagner piece or maybe it was opera (I forget the name) that was consisted from 4 movements and was about Scandinavian heroes and myths. The conclusions are simple...

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Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Saturday, September 27, 2003 (12:49 p.m.) 

The good old german composers. Times before Zimmer and Badelt.
I say that as a german!

PA

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Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Wednesday, October 1, 2003 (12:33 p.m.) 

> The good old german composers. Times before Zimmer and Badelt.
I say
> that as a german!

I got the point . I won't say bad word about Zimmer, but yeah, Badelt is still big dissapointment as a composer for me. It's out of Matrix-related subjects, but in some way German-rooted composers ruled Golden Age: Waxman, Steiner and of course Herrmann and Korngold have also some german element in their names .

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Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Tuesday, November 4, 2003 (5:59 p.m.) 

I say

> I got the point . I won't say bad word about Zimmer, but yeah, Badelt
> is still big dissapointment as a composer for me. It's out of
> Matrix-related subjects, but in some way German-rooted composers ruled
> Golden Age: Waxman, Steiner and of course Herrmann and Korngold have also
> some german element in their names .

> Tomek

You just wait until I hit the scoring stage...my name is German!


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about the title Neodämmerung   Monday, April 5, 2004 (5:05 a.m.) 

Well dämmerung literally means dawn, so it is the dawn of Neo

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Tomek
Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Monday, October 6, 2003 (10:37 a.m.) 

> the title Neodämmerung is certainly derived from Richard Wagner's opera
> Götterdämmerung - the last opera of the famous Ring cycle. google it to
> find what it means... =)

Interestingly, in norse mythology, the gods demise at the end unlike the
immortal gods of other religions. Thus, Gotterdammerung means
Twilight of the Gods. Neo's probably gonna die...

Perhaps an act of sacrafice as the messiah?

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Re: about the title Neodämmerung   Tuesday, October 7, 2003 (1:26 a.m.) 

> Interestingly, in norse mythology, the gods demise at the end unlike the
>
immortal gods of other religions. Thus, Gotterdammerung means
>
Twilight of the Gods. Neo's probably gonna die...
> Perhaps an act of sacrafice as the messiah?

Not really. If Matrix will be destroyed in final part of the film, then Neo as a virtual referance of Neo in real world will be finished too (to this thing might be refering title Neodammerung), but it isn't said that Neo as a human will be dead (I think that final events of the 3rd film will be happening in real world).

Tomek


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