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Malick and his goddam mozart crap

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Malick and his goddam mozart crap   Monday, February 13, 2006 (2:29 p.m.) 

This is my first post on this forum and i never thought i would be posting, but having just watched the new world i thought i had to say a little something. Yes we all know horner re-uses themes time and time again but its these themes that drew me to his work. Having listened to the score album and expecting to find this great music on the film itself left me somewhat bewildered and highly dissapointed. If youre going to reject a score for whatever reason then friggin reject it, dont go substituting it for classical music or other crap source material. Horner had come up with some great themes and can tell he sat down and thought long and hard about his execution. Sure im probably going to get flamed but its something i think needed adressing..if it aint broke dont bother fixing it mr malick (and if i were you mr horner i would put a big X next to working with that director, stick to ron howard he knows a good thing when he sees it). Plus the song at the end of the album did justice i commend you. does anyone else agree?

a slighty pissed of horner fan from the UK

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Re: A couple things...   Monday, February 13, 2006 (7:32 p.m.) 

> This is my first post on this forum and i never thought i would be
> posting, but having just watched the new world i thought i had to say a
> little something. Yes we all know horner re-uses themes time and time
> again but its these themes that drew me to his work. Having listened to
> the score album and expecting to find this great music on the film itself
> left me somewhat bewildered and highly dissapointed. If youre going to
> reject a score for whatever reason then friggin reject it, dont go
> substituting it for classical music or other crap source material. Horner
> had come up with some great themes and can tell he sat down and thought
> long and hard about his execution. Sure im probably going to get flamed
> but its something i think needed adressing..if it aint broke dont bother
> fixing it mr malick (and if i were you mr horner i would put a big X next
> to working with that director, stick to ron howard he knows a good thing
> when he sees it). Plus the song at the end of the album did justice i
> commend you. does anyone else agree?

> a slighty pissed of horner fan from the UK

At one point, something you said struck me as odd... oh thats right, you refered to Mozart as "crap." Now I understand, film music and classical music are two different things (unless you buy into the idea that film music is America's "classical music" which I really don't.) However, if you enjoy Horner, you should enjoy Mozart since Horner has taken things from Mozart on several occasions (most noticably in the final track of Willow being Confutatis from Mozart's requiem).

Another thing... perhaps Malick wanted to reject the score, but didnt' have enough time. Or perhaps he really enjoyed parts of the score, but really wanted to have the strong Mozart of Wagner influence there too. Don't just assume he wanted to reject the whole thing, directors get the raw end of the deal from us film score fans a lot... I'm sure Malick at least mildly good reasoning ... mildly...

And lastly... Horner doesn't seem to be working with Howard anymore... "Cinderella Man" was Thomas Newman and "The Da Vinci Code" is going to be Zimmer (I'm not looking forward to that... it'll be "Crimson Tide" in even newer packaging).

One thing I'll say for Horner is this... he may reuse, but he offers a good amount of new material everytime as well... Zimmer just takes a score and puts new packaging with it.

Amuro


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Too much stupidity, even for the first post   Friday, February 17, 2006 (2:21 a.m.) 

Horner almost ruined the movie. Thank God for Mozart.

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Re: Too much stupidity, even for the first post   Friday, February 17, 2006 (10:17 p.m.) 

i agree, and don't forget Wagner.

Using Vorspiel from "Das Rheingold" in this film was one of the most stunning things I've seen.

> Horner almost ruined the movie. Thank God for Mozart.


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Re: Too much stupidity, even for the first post   Saturday, February 18, 2006 (10:41 a.m.) 

> i agree, and don't forget Wagner.

> Using Vorspiel from "Das Rheingold" in this film was one of the
> most stunning things I've seen.

ok, it seems i was hastey by saying horner got replaced by the mozart 'crap' as i so called it, i didnt actually mean mozart was crap just that i didnt like horner's score being chopped and replaced by other classical music. And in response, i disagree that horner ruined this film i thought that he helped contribute towards a good musical score and his themes were pleasing to hear, infact its the main thing that carried me through the film other than that i thought it was rather slow. And if im the only guy who thinks that about malicks intentions of score reducing then so be it!

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Have some respect, your idiot. If it wasnt Mozart or Wagner, Horner never existed. *NM*   Tuesday, February 14, 2006 (3:01 a.m.) 



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Not to mention...   Tuesday, February 14, 2006 (3:18 a.m.) 

...that Horner never wrote nothing even comparable to the glorious beauty of Mozart piano concerto nš23, specially the slow movement, or the Rheingold, specially the second scene.

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