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Re: Suprising response
• Posted by: Matt
• Date: Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 3:39 p.m.
• IP Address: 216-237-196-116-dslam1-hmc.northstate.net
• In Response to: Re: Suprising response (CS^TBL)

> The problem I have with Horner is that it looks like he isn't even going
> to bother to try something new. It's lazyness. There're so many musical
> ways to go, why does he stick to his usual welknown path?
'Borrowing'
> from himself or even other composers is also incredibally n00b, there're
> plenty o' examples where he takes pieces almost 1:1 from other
> (film-)composers. Try 'Land Before Time', and compare it with the
> classical piece 'Peter and the Wolf', the outcome is shocking!
So,
> that's why I wondered in the other topic, below: what's he gonna compose
> in 2026? The same ol' stuff again?

> Yes, the album on its own is easily four stars yeah. But in terms of
> "how much new material does it offer to an already large collection
> of Horner OST's", it's all very FRISBEE'ish.. You could own 5 OST's
> from the man, and basically have all the source material he did sofar!

I understand what you're saying about his career and the direction it's headed but consider this- even in the 80's, when he focused on those silly action and science films, he was ripping himself off just as much as he is now. Eventually that style wore out so he moved on to dramatic films. Who would of guessed the composer of "Star Trek II" would go on to compose something like as soft and serious "House of Sand and Fog"? Horner is always re-inventing his own wheel so to speak. Of course he still uses his early ideas and presents them in his new works, but the tone of his music is very different. I have no doubt he'll move on eventually. He's still in his 50's.

And yes, there's a good amount of music in "The New World" that we've heard before, but there are also a few ideas, as always. No matter what the score, no matter how unoriginal it may be, he still has at least one thing new to say.

As I always say, I'd like to see you get up and compose a full blown film score and make each one after it original. Absolutely no composer in history (and I mean every composer from every time period) is innocent of ripping themselves off or the work of others. It's impossible, especially in this day in age. Of course Horner does it a little more than others, but he's definitely not the only one. Film composers often don't have the flair and brilliance of the classics anyway, with some exceptions.




Comments in this Thread:     Expand >>
  • Suprising response  (3678 views)
       Matt - Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 3:21 p.m.
    •    Re: Suprising response  (3259 views)
         B - Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 3:54 p.m.
    •    Re: Suprising response  (3205 views)
         CS^TBL - Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 5:33 a.m.
      •      Re: Suprising response  (3158 views)    We're Here
           Matt - Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 3:39 p.m.
    •    Re: Suprising response  (3343 views)
         Eric - Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 7:12 p.m.


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