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Comments about the soundtrack for The New World (James Horner)
So damn dissapointing!

Zed
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So damn dissapointing!   Monday, February 6, 2006 (8:05 a.m.) 

Well if this score can get four stars...I'm an astronaut! This score is terrible and terrible in the film as well. It's a shame Zimmer didn't stay with the project. If some other composers like Zimmer, Elfman, Hewton Howard etc were to use these terrible synthetic choir samples they would have been absoloutley hammered by good old Christian Clem! This was a film essentially about Native Americans...wheres the authentic touch of those raw sounds and melodies from the Natives...No where to be heard cause Horner has no original ideas anymore which is a shame and has no idea how to write with feeling for such a dramattic film like this. After all of Horner's early works in the 80s he has become the most uninspiring composer in hollywood today and this score proves it! Well thats in my opinion anyways hehe. But if you do enjoy this score, well good on you But my ears have finally had enough of old Horner. I'm going to go listen to Willow anyways Be cool friends and get ready for The Da Vinci Code score by Master Zimmer. Should be fantastic...Suppose to be along the same style Zimmer wrote for Hannibal which was an amazing outing. P.S. I managed to track down Trevor Jones score for Krull...It's a really cool score...If you can get lucky and find it...Buy It! Peace to you all!

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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Monday, February 6, 2006 (8:58 a.m.) 

Get your facts right!

> Well if this score can get four stars...I'm an astronaut! This score is
> terrible and terrible in the film as well.

75% of Horner's work didn't appear in the film. If you thought it was "terrible in the film", you were likely listening to Wagner and Mozart.

> It's a shame Zimmer didn't stay with the project.

Zimmer was never officially on the project. People made assumptions based on his having scored The New World.

> This was a film
> essentially about Native Americans...wheres the authentic touch of those
> raw sounds and melodies from the Natives...No where to be heard cause
> Horner has no original ideas anymore which is a shame and has no idea how
> to write with feeling for such a dramattic film like this.

If Horner has used "raw sounds and melodies from the Natives", people would have accused him of ripping off Thunderheart. He can't win no matter what he does.

> P.S. I managed to track down Trevor Jones score for Krull...

Trevor Jones didn't write Krull.

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Typo   Monday, February 6, 2006 (8:59 a.m.) 

> Zimmer was never officially on the project. People made assumptions based
> on his having scored The New World.

I mean The Thin Red Line, of course.

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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Monday, February 6, 2006 (8:54 p.m.) 

Sorry bout the Krull thing, but thats a good example of what i meant about Horner's original stuff from the 80s. So good, but now so crap! Stay funky friend...

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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Monday, November 27, 2006 (12:43 p.m.) 

He can't win no
> matter what he does.

Truly right.

For certain ones.

And the opposite for some others.


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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Monday, February 6, 2006 (2:06 p.m.) 

If some other composers like Zimmer, Elfman, Hewton
> Howard etc were to use these terrible synthetic choir samples they would
> have been absoloutley hammered by good old Christian Clem!

Yes.you are absolutly right.No one said bad things about the terrible synth on braveheart,but everybody blame zimmer for his more actual synth on gladiator.
Horner was one of my favourite composers,but this score its more of the same, and its out of place in the movie.Listen Horner is like eat honey with sugar.

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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Monday, February 6, 2006 (7:20 p.m.) 

> Be cool friends and get ready for The Da Vinci Code
> score by Master Zimmer.

Master Zimmer, haha! You're funny Good for you, that you can call him a master.

>P.S. I managed to track down Trevor Jones score for Krull...It's a really cool
score...If you can get lucky and find it...Buy It! Peace to you all!

Krull by Trevor Jones? - well I consider this film music blasphemy! But you are right, Krull is a great score, my all time Horner favorite.


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Re: So damn dissapointing!   Wednesday, February 8, 2006 (2:19 a.m.) 

> This was a film
> essentially about Native Americans...wheres the authentic touch of those
> raw sounds and melodies from the Natives...No where to be heard cause
> Horner has no original ideas anymore which is a shame and has no idea how
> to write with feeling for such a dramattic film like this.

Horner and Malick wanted to avoid the typical "native american sounding" at any cost... Don't blame him for using synths because he uses his synths with a touch that is unknown to modern, overrated composers of the young generation... Even if they sound dated. The blend of synths, twinkling piano, bird songs and smooth string textures in several moments of The New World is one of very few magical moments of magic in last year's film music. However the length of the album is it's major flaw.

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