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30 minutes!?

Miz
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Jockolantern
30 minutes!?   Wednesday, October 29, 2003 (1:47 p.m.) 

Just browsing, not particularly interested in this score, but who would pay for a 30 minute album?! I regretted buying SpiderMan, at 45 minutes, and try and maake my purchases last over an hour. I thought Sixth Sense was cheapo with 35 minutes, but THIS?! Madness. Why market such CDs?

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Jockolantern
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Fraley
Chad Wichterman
Two answers to that question.   Wednesday, October 29, 2003 (2:39 p.m.) 

> Just browsing, not particularly interested in this score, but who would
> pay for a 30 minute album?! I regretted buying SpiderMan, at 45 minutes,
> and try and maake my purchases last over an hour. I thought Sixth Sense
> was cheapo with 35 minutes, but THIS?! Madness. Why market such CDs?

1) Because fans of Shore and film scores in general will purchase it, and Varese Sarabane knows that well.

2) It's solid compositional work and hardly "themeless" as Christian purports. As one of the fellow Scoreboarders here notes quite often: "Less equals more," and that really does hold true quite often.

Besides, you can't represent the minimal amount of music in a movie like Panic Room on CD by plugging an extra 30 minutes of music on it that doesn't exist; the music that Shore composed is what we get, no matter how long or short it may be. Also, Spider-Man, while missing a few minor cues, is the perfect running length at 45 minutes and is quite a great listen. Besides, I find myself NOT wanting to listen to a longer album release if I simply don't have the time to listen to most or all of it. Short albums do have their advantages, like being able to listen to them in one sitting, something I consider extremely important.

And, heck, if you don't wanna' fork out $14 for it, then just go to Half.com or something where you can actually get it cheaper. It's not too hard to think of money saving solutions, you know.

Sayonara!
Jockolantern


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Will
Re: Two answers to that question.   Thursday, October 30, 2003 (11:06 a.m.) 

The whole "short album" complaint has been made numerous times, and there actually IS a valid explaination.

First, as Jockolantern pointed out, many films don't have that much music in the film, as well as on many films especially in the horror/suspense genre, there is a lot of quiet underscore where a lenthy, complete album would not be as interesting as a shorter one with the important cues represented.

Second, often lengthier albums are not financially possible, as orchestral works recorded in the US are subject to "reuse fees", which means that the orchestra gets payed royalties, usually a high dollar figure, based on the amount of their music publicly released. This often means that an album longer than 30 minutes performed by an LA Orchestra would be financially impossible.

Basically, those of us who appreciate the art of film music are happy to get whatever we can.

> 1) Because fans of Shore and film scores in general will purchase it, and
> Varese Sarabane knows that well.

> 2) It's solid compositional work and hardly "themeless" as
> Christian purports. As one of the fellow Scoreboarders here notes quite
> often: "Less equals more," and that really does hold true quite
> often.

> Besides, you can't represent the minimal amount of music in a movie like
> Panic Room on CD by plugging an extra 30 minutes of music on it that
> doesn't exist; the music that Shore composed is what we get, no matter how
> long or short it may be. Also, Spider-Man, while missing a few minor cues,
> is the perfect running length at 45 minutes and is quite a great listen.
> Besides, I find myself NOT wanting to listen to a longer album release if
> I simply don't have the time to listen to most or all of it. Short albums
> do have their advantages, like being able to listen to them in one
> sitting, something I consider extremely important.

> And, heck, if you don't wanna' fork out $14 for it, then just go to
> Half.com or something where you can actually get it cheaper. It's not
> too hard to think of money saving solutions, you know.

> Sayonara!
:) Jockolantern


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Fraley
Re: Two answers to that question.   Sunday, May 29, 2005 (9:12 a.m.) 

I feel a little silly posting this now, but while I too have gotten irritated at the 30-minute album trend, I find that there really ISN'T that much "essential music" deleted from some score releases. People were very angry when "Scream" came out with less than 30 minutes of score to represent TWO movies, but there really isn't that much of essential music left in the film.

Some movies seem like they have a lot more music than they do. I remember hearing of some great bootleg with the "complete score" to Zimmer's "Backdraft" and getting interested until I saw the film and realized that practically all the music in the film is on the album, other than a few source songs. It might be nice if Varese put two short Shore scores together on one release, but considering that this release would not have probably occurred without Varese's interest, I'm willing to give them a break.

Will

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Re: Two answers to that question.   Thursday, July 6, 2006 (2:45 a.m.) 

If 30 minute cds are being produced than please put most of the wild score that will entertain us on it and leave alot of the soft mellow stuff out. The reveiws and sells of the album will be more positive than music that will put you to sleep. Especially when your driving in your car, you want to enjoy the score not relax to it. That would make us wreck!

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