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Pearl Harbor upsets Zimmer fan

Derek Hammeke
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Stephen
Pearl Harbor upsets Zimmer fan   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 (11:43 p.m.) 

When I went to the store right as it opened to pick up my copy I was very excited. Hoping for a Gladiator all over again. I pop it in and it's alright, and then still it's alright, and then never picks up. To me it's a let down to what I thought would be a great action and romance soundtrack. If I had not been hyped up about it, I might think it was better. I think I'll still listen to it, but now I'm concerned about how this will affect the movie and the emotion I'll feel when I see it. One last thing, if anyone knows where the music from the 3rd trailer is from I'm all ears. Not the Thin Red Line one, the trailer released later, it's just great music. I'd never heard it before and thought it would be the theme for Pearl Harbor, but I was unforunatly wrong:\

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Daren
Re: Pearl Harbor upsets Zimmer fan   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 (6:29 a.m.) 

Dude cut Hans a little slack here!

It is not always the composers fault that the score can sound a bit off...
Take John Williams Star Wars The Phantom Menace CDs. They were both terrible. But if you watch the movie, the movie its self didn't let enough room to compose such a great piece.

It is often when a composer is asked impossible tasks. To make a score that lasts only 11 seconds etc. In the end it may sound terrible, but then it may work in the movie. Should it effect the movie and the story telling? NO! If anything it should enrich both film and score.

My advice to you is to set aside your new CD and listen to something else to clear your mind. Once you have seen the movie go back and see if you feel differently about the score.

I know Hans and sometimes he tells me stories about people who want impossible things.

Have fun!

> When I went to the store right as it opened to pick up my copy I was very
> excited. Hoping for a Gladiator all over again. I pop it in and it's
> alright, and then still it's alright, and then never picks up. To me it's
> a let down to what I thought would be a great action and romance
> soundtrack. If I had not been hyped up about it, I might think it was
> better. I think I'll still listen to it, but now I'm concerned about how
> this will affect the movie and the emotion I'll feel when I see it. One
> last thing, if anyone knows where the music from the 3rd trailer is from
> I'm all ears. Not the Thin Red Line one, the trailer released later, it's
> just great music. I'd never heard it before and thought it would be the
> theme for Pearl Harbor, but I was unforunatly wrong:\


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Mike
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Don Smith
PH trailer music   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 (10:18 a.m.) 

The music heard in that trailer was in fact from Pearl Harbor, I believe. If you listen to the last half of the 8th track, War, you will hear a rendition of it. This motiff is also present throughout much of the score, though never complete. I am guessing that Zimmer either composed the music for the trailer itself or it was taken from part of the movie that did not, for whatever reason, make the final cut of the cd. That is my one gripe with the score...that it does not feature the music in the trailer. It should. Other than that, I think Zimmer's music here is awesome, combining the best parts of Thin Red Line and Gladiator. I think everyone who criticizes Pearl Harbor (even though it's not out yet) needs to remember that it is a romance with the Japanese attack as the setting. Thus, Zimmer's music reflects this and you do not get an action/adventure score. I think this music will fit the movie very well. Just give it a chance.

> Dude cut Hans a little slack here!

> It is not always the composers fault that the score can sound a bit off...
>
Take John Williams Star Wars The Phantom Menace CDs. They were both
> terrible. But if you watch the movie, the movie its self didn't let enough
> room to compose such a great piece.

> It is often when a composer is asked impossible tasks. To make a score
> that lasts only 11 seconds etc. In the end it may sound terrible, but then
> it may work in the movie. Should it effect the movie and the story
> telling? NO! If anything it should enrich both film and score.

> My advice to you is to set aside your new CD and listen to something else
> to clear your mind. Once you have seen the movie go back and see if you
> feel differently about the score.

> I know Hans and sometimes he tells me stories about people who want
> impossible things.

> Have fun!

>


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Re: PH trailer music   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 (2:35 p.m.) 

> The music heard in that trailer was in fact from Pearl Harbor, I believe.
> If you listen to the last half of the 8th track, War, you will hear a
> rendition of it. This motiff is also present throughout much of the score,
> though never complete. I am guessing that Zimmer either composed the music
> for the trailer itself or it was taken from part of the movie that did
> not, for whatever reason, make the final cut of the cd. That is my one
> gripe with the score...that it does not feature the music in the trailer.
> It should. Other than that, I think Zimmer's music here is awesome,
> combining the best parts of Thin Red Line and Gladiator. I think everyone
> who criticizes Pearl Harbor (even though it's not out yet) needs to
> remember that it is a romance with the Japanese attack as the setting.
> Thus, Zimmer's music reflects this and you do not get an action/adventure
> score. I think this music will fit the movie very well. Just give it a
> chance.
Take John Williams Star Wars The Phantom Menace CDs. They were
> both

First off, the music from Pearl Harbor trailer 3 uses the music at the beginning from Greame Revells The Crow:City Of Angels, and then the actual music from Zimmer's Pearl Harbor. Other TV trailers use The Crow orginal, also composed by Revell, track 8.
Can't wait to see the movie and hear the rest of the score.


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Re: PH trailer music   Wednesday, June 6, 2001 (5:00 a.m.) 

Pearl Habor's trailer music !
What a deception : the trailer music is not on the CD ! And if there could have been a Great theme, it would have been this one...
Now, I'm just obliged to use the trailer to listen THE theme...
Otherwise, Pearl habor is not so bad but give me a feeling of an unended score !

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Re: PH trailer music   Tuesday, July 4, 2006 (9:50 a.m.) 

I remember most the music from the first of the theatrical trailers, because it suited the mood of what Pearl Harbor should have been. Pearl Harbor should have been about one of the darkest hours of american history, not some sappy, unconvincing love story. Or it should have had a better script, better actors (Ben Affleck should have been replaced above all), and a better director. Michael Bay screwed up, and bad. The first trailers used music from Hans Zimmer's The Thin Red Line, and it sounded magnificent. Dark, brooding, elegiacal and mysterious. What Zimmer did in Pearl Harbor was great, but it didn't really suit the film and the story. Some magnificent cues on this soundtrack, it really does work on it's own and it's a spectacular listen often times, but as a filmscore, it wasn't that successful.

But again, I doubt that even if Zimmer had time to deliver a fantastic and suitable score that it would have made the film work. Horrid, horrid film.

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you know hans?   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 (2:39 p.m.) 

> I know Hans and sometimes he tells me stories about people who want
> impossible things.

> Have fun!

tell me ... how can someone be lucky enough to know Hans Zimmer?

Regards to you
Daren

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