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Comments about the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean (Klaus Badelt and co.)
I thought I liked the Pirate motif until I read this review

Michele Haywood
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Euphman
I thought I liked the Pirate motif until I read this review   Saturday, May 12, 2007 (7:33 a.m.) 

I was excited about the Pirate motif in this soundtrack because I am enamored of the rhythm of the timpani, but after reading the Soundtracks review and checking out the score to "The Rock," I had a rude awakening.
I never would have been able to tell that I wasn't listening to something from "Pirates of the Caribbean" if I didn't know I was listening to the soundtrack from "The Rock." How disappointing.
However, I did like the way the music fits during Jack and Will's first swordfight in the blacksmith's shop, and I still like the pirate motif.
The soundtrack is another story - it is disappointing. I HATE synthesized music, especially when it particularly noticeable, as in this soundtrack. This score could have redeemed itself with real strings. It's very unfortunate.



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Re: I thought I liked the Pirate motif until I read this review   Wednesday, May 30, 2007 (5:13 p.m.) 

You know what the theme reminds me of? It reminds me of the middle chorale of Jupiter from Holst's Planets Suite. I wouldn't think twice about it except that Zimmer is known to be "inspired" (steals from) by Holst. Listening to Gladiator...well...the battle music is pretty much 10 a minute riff on Mars.

Also compare the theme of Gladiator to the Pirates theme. Both start with the horns in an upward line. The two themes are very, very similar. Very. Talk about a one trick horse.

> I was excited about the Pirate motif in this soundtrack because I am
> enamored of the rhythm of the timpani, but after reading the Soundtracks
> review and checking out the score to "The Rock," I had a rude
> awakening.
> I never would have been able to tell that I wasn't listening to something
> from "Pirates of the Caribbean" if I didn't know I was listening
> to the soundtrack from "The Rock." How disappointing.
> However, I did like the way the music fits during Jack and Will's first
> swordfight in the blacksmith's shop, and I still like the pirate motif.
> The soundtrack is another story - it is disappointing. I HATE synthesized
> music, especially when it particularly noticeable, as in this soundtrack.
> This score could have redeemed itself with real strings. It's very
> unfortunate.



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Re: I thought I liked the Pirate motif until I read this review   Thursday, April 10, 2008 (2:00 p.m.) 
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i respect both opinions, but i would only expect to hear these opinions from individuals who are completely unknowing of the circumstances surrounding the soundtrack's production and or a clear zimmer "non fan".

this soundtrack was produced in 5 weeks time, with a gang of composers, with hans writing the main thematic material. because of his contractual obligations to the last samurai, he could not participate on this particular assignment to any real extent. badelt and his team took that material and made a score of it. additionally, the original composer, jerry goldsmith, had months to compose a fitting score and failed miserably at giving jerry bruckheimer and director gore verbinski what they were looking for. so he was fired and hans and his team were asked to produce something in 5 weeks, which meant no time for the scoring/recording stage and additional orchestrations, so everything was going to be synthesizers and as is. so there is your reason for the abundance of synthesizers, and if you listen to the following two sequels you will notice the clear presence of an actual orchestra given they had the time.

every composer has their style...this is what defines them. i can listen to any john williams work without title and tell you it's john williams...you can give me a future work with no name or title and i can tell you it's john williams...why? because he has an identifiable style, which elfman, shore, etc. all have. just as the sir above me pulled two zimmer scores and said how they sound a like, i can do the same for the aforementioned composers.


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Re: I thought I liked the Pirate motif until I read this review   Thursday, April 10, 2008 (2:13 p.m.) 

> i respect both opinions, but i would only expect to hear these opinions
> from individuals who are completely unknowing of the circumstances
> surrounding the soundtrack's production and or a clear zimmer "non
> fan".

> this soundtrack was produced in 5 weeks time, with a gang of composers,
> with hans writing the main thematic material. because of his contractual
> obligations to the last samurai, he could not participate on this
> particular assignment to any real extent. badelt and his team took that
> material and made a score of it. additionally, the original composer,
> jerry goldsmith, had months to compose a fitting score and failed
> miserably at giving jerry bruckheimer and director gore verbinski what
> they were looking for. so he was fired and hans and his team were asked to
> produce something in 5 weeks, which meant no time for the
> scoring/recording stage and additional orchestrations, so everything was
> going to be synthesizers and as is. so there is your reason for the
> abundance of synthesizers, and if you listen to the following two sequels
> you will notice the clear presence of an actual orchestra given they had
> the time.

> every composer has their style...this is what defines them. i can listen
> to any john williams work without title and tell you it's john
> williams...you can give me a future work with no name or title and i can
> tell you it's john williams...why? because he has an identifiable style,
> which elfman, shore, etc. all have. just as the sir above me pulled two
> zimmer scores and said how they sound a like, i can do the same for the
> aforementioned composers.

i meant alan silvestri, not goldsmith.



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