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The vote tally never lies!   Tuesday, September 15, 2009 (7:26 p.m.) 
• Now Playing: Autobots, from "Transformers" (Sorry, it's a guilty pleasure  

I've been reading some of the pro-Zimmer and anti-Zimmer rants on some message posts, and I've noticed how a certain percentage of people have complained about Christian's bias against Zimmer and how he elaborates on how dumb the new "Media Ventures" style is. I've personally have found most of the remarks quite amusing (including the "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" review) and comply that this Zimmer-esque style is getting old and quite overrated (for instance, The Dark Knight in no ways should be considered an excelling score. Can you truly compare it with Conan the Barbarian, Cutthroat Island, LotR or Star Wars?)

Even if Clemmensen's writings are a little too over-the-top, the vote tallies comply with most of these opinions. Just check the tally for this score. Many have written how they consider PotC 3 a superior score (I found it quite enjoyable too), but in the votes, those awarding it 5 or 4 stars are the minority. It's not as polarized as, say, "Transformers" with an approximately equal level of praise and scorn. The majority of readers awarded "At World's End" just 1 star.

So, when you start to rant about bias, fanboys or stupidity of either end, check the votes.

(Message edited on Tuesday, September 15, 2009, at 7:33 p.m.)


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Re: The vote tally never lies!   Saturday, August 6, 2011 (6:53 a.m.) 
• Now Playing: The Prince of Egypt (AWESOME SCORE)  

> I've been reading some of the pro-Zimmer and anti-Zimmer rants on some
> message posts, and I've noticed how a certain percentage of people have
> complained about Christian's bias against Zimmer and how he elaborates on
> how dumb the new "Media Ventures" style is. I've personally have
> found most of the remarks quite amusing (including the "Transformers:
> Revenge of the Fallen" review) and comply that this Zimmer-esque
> style is getting old and quite overrated (for instance, The Dark Knight in
> no ways should be considered an excelling score. Can you truly compare it
> with Conan the Barbarian, Cutthroat Island, LotR or Star Wars?)

> Even if Clemmensen's writings are a little too over-the-top, the vote
> tallies comply with most of these opinions. Just check the tally for this
> score. Many have written how they consider PotC 3 a superior score (I
> found it quite enjoyable too), but in the votes, those awarding it 5 or 4
> stars are the minority. It's not as polarized as, say,
> "Transformers" with an approximately equal level of praise and
> scorn. The majority of readers awarded "At World's End" just 1
> star.

> So, when you start to rant about bias, fanboys or stupidity of either end,
> check the votes.

I gotta say, I agree with you... to an extent. It is true that the vote tally definitely is pretty accurate, but sometimes it goes with what Clemmensen writes. Sometimes the scores are high for the sole reason that Clemmensen gives it a high review. For instance, Hoosiers, in all its brilliance, can't possibly be the greatest score of all time. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's frustrating to see how it's (according to the vote tallies) the greatest score of all time, clocking in at a stunning 4.37 average. That's a little unbelievable.
Also, if you look at masterpieces like Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian, and Cutthroat Island, notice how many 1 star reviews there are. That is simply appallingly unfair and I'm sure that some people rate them low just to bring down the average. Star Wars cannot possibly be deserving of a 1 star rating (the force theme always makes me quiver), and LOTR can't either. Cutthroat Island might be understandable if people simply loathe loud music, but seriously. 142 people giving it a 1 star rating? Lord of the Rings with 572 1 star ratings? Star Wars with 402 1 star ratings? Dumb. You can easily see that some people obviously want to pull down the average.
There are always people who troll. Some who give pointless 5 star ratings and those who give pointless 1 star ratings. (Most curious to me is how Pirates of the Caribbean 1's score has its votes divided in such a manner)
Either way, saying the vote tally "never" lies is simply incorrect. Look at the glorious scores for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Parts 1 and 2, and Twilight: New Moon. All have delightful music, but none have the ratings they deserve. Goblet of Fire should have at least a 3.5 overall. Deathly Hallows 1 should have at least a 3.4. Deathly Hallows 2 should have at least a 3.8. New Moon should have at least a 3.5.
New Moon and Deathly Hallows 1 each have scores below 3.0, because fanboys (and fangirls, in New Moon's case) aren't intelligent enough to accept new sounds for their franchises, even when far superior (only in New Moon's case).



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