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john williams and future Potter?

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john williams and future Potter?   Tuesday, August 2, 2005 (2:45 p.m.) 

Just a brief question here, will John Williams also do the scoring to the upcoming Goblet of Fire?
Thanks!

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Re: john williams and future Potter?   Wednesday, August 3, 2005 (3:47 p.m.) 

> Just a brief question here, will John Williams also do the scoring to the
> upcoming Goblet of Fire?
Thanks!

No. I forget the name of the person who is doing the Goblet of Fire score, but it's someone I've never heard of anyways. I hope they are still able to use the major themes that Williams came up with for the first 3 films.


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Re: john williams and future Potter?   Thursday, August 4, 2005 (5:58 a.m.) 

> No. I forget the name of the person who is doing the Goblet of Fire score,
> but it's someone I've never heard of anyways. I hope they are still able
> to use the major themes that Williams came up with for the first 3 films.

It will be Patrick Doyle.


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More on the new GOF OST   Sunday, October 30, 2005 (11:22 p.m.) 

> It will be Patrick Doyle.

And I think they made a big mistake losing John Williams for this one. I've heard the new Goblet Of Fire soundtrack and... well, let's just say Christian's gonna have a field day on this one! The first three tracks are skip-button material, but the rest of the CD isn't too bad. There's nothing original here, but if you like dark, somber pieces interspersed with occasional romantic and tragic cues it's worth a listen. But the loss of the Hedwig's Theme signature tune and the other well-known cues weighs heavily against it - can you imagine an episode of Star Wars without that familiar anthem at the beginning? Changing composers halfway through a franchise as big as HP is a bad move. Anyway, here's a quickie track overview for those interested:

1 ) Magic Works (3:59): A boring and lugubrious pop song.
2 ) This Is The Night (3:23): Another boring and lugubrious pop song.
3 ) Do The Hippogriff (3:40): Eardrum-wrecking speaker-popping crap.
4 ) Hogwarts Hymn (2:59): Nice stately anthemic, hymnlike piece with strings and woodwinds.
5 ) Another Year Ends (2:18): Sweet, melodic piece with occasional heroic overtones in the strings, meanders from cue to cue without really going anywhere.
6 ) Cedric (1:57) Simple string cue without any real definition.
7 ) Voldemort (9:36) Dark, sinister, sombre strings with occasional tympani rolls and explosive dramatic outbursts.
8 ) The Maze (4:43) Starts off with a mystical, ethereal cue which descends into sombre darkness, followed by sweeping dramatic brass cues. Another good pick.
9 ) Hogwarts March (2:44) English-sounding high-school brass band march with a cheerful, mischievous attitude.
10 ) The Black Lake (4:35) More dark, sombre strings rising to a heroic, climactic brass and string ensemble, worth listening to.
11 ) Myrtle's Move (2:25) Rogers and Hammerstein style incidental cue, which goes to a variation on Habanera from Bizet's Carmen. Then a child soloist singing a hymn unaccampanied, which is a good listen.
12 ) Potter Waltz (2:17) Viennese Strauss-inspired waltz, and not a bad effort.
13 ) Harry Potter's Love (2:55) The pick of the bunch. This is a beautiful cue, a sweet slow string piece with emotional minor modulations.
14 ) Neville's Waltz (2:09) A slower waltz than Track 12, more in the style of Lehar than Strauss.
15 ) Goblet Of Fire (3:19) Another dark string piece with occasional dramatic outbursts.

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Re: More on the new GOF OST   Sunday, November 13, 2005 (5:24 p.m.) 

I must disagree with your assessment. Just listened to the score, and it's pretty darned awesome. In retrospect, Patrick Doyle was an appropriate composer choice for the new Potter score, but now that I'm hearing it, expectations are met and exceeded; Goblet is appropriately dark, moody, and rich. It's not too far removed from the soundscape that Williams created for the first three films, and the transition from composer to composer doesn't feel in the least disjointed. True, Doyle doesn't cull much from Williams' thematic palette, but Hedwig's Theme does indeed appear, which is used in tasteful ways in one or two places within the score. Doyle generally makes the score his own, with some really elegant orchestration that stands out from Williams' usual by-the-books style. This is particularly evident in a number of the waltz pieces, as well as some of the more uncharacteriscally whimsical and epic pieces.

I won't quote many tracks just yet, in lieu of spoilers, but I just have to mention The Quidditch World Cup, my personal favorite from the score. Quidditch has the aforementioned elegant orchestration out in full force, but really surprises when it interlaces a relentless percussion-pounding/chant-infused cue that's just made for cinematic presentation. [This was the very same cue used in one of the previous teaser trailers for the movie.]

Personally, Williams' first two scores didn't do much for me, although I enjoyed Prisoner of Azkaban to a large extent, due to the strong presence of the Window To The Past and Double Trouble theme motifs. Doyle doesn't hold on to thematic strands quite as much as Williams does (there is one new theme, which appears to serve as Goblet's primary music identity, heard most prominently in "Harry In Winter" -- I believe this is the track that was changed from the name "Harry Potter's Love"), but his score for the new film is a beautifully-original piece of work, and a fabulous listen. That said, I now can't wait to hear the music in context of the movie.

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Re: More on the new GOF OST   Friday, November 18, 2005 (6:21 a.m.) 

As soon as the movie started, i realized something was wrong. The music was good, but it was no john williams. As i die-hard john williams fan, I was very mad over the composer-switch.

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Re: More on the new GOF OST   Wednesday, November 23, 2005 (4:37 p.m.) 

I loved the score. My personal favorite was Foreign Visitors Arrive.

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Re: More on the new GOF OST   Saturday, March 11, 2006 (11:53 a.m.) 

I've bought this soundtrack, and while it wasn't crushingly disappointing, it wasn't as good as I expected. Its use in the film is brilliant, but I can't say as much when it's played by itself. I really wish the composer had extended the new themes from Prisoner of Azkaban, which were absolutely wonderful (I regret that when the 3rd movie, which I now love, came out, I immediately disliked it and therefore did not buy the soundtrack while it was still in stores). Overall, this score isn't so bad. I'd give it a B. I think one of its weaknesses is that it's somewhat repetitive. Thankfully, Do the Hippogriff, This is the Night, and Magic Works, all three of which are pretty awful when not heard with the movie, are placed at the very end of the soundtrack. I always skip them. While this soundtrack isn't near as good as the first three, many of the tracks are pretty stunning, particularly The Story Continues, Another Year Ends, Foreign Visitors Arrive, Harry in Winter, and Hogwarts' Hymn. And I'm sure there are others I'm leaving out. I rather wish they would stick with one set of essential movie-making people though. Really, by the time the fifth movie is out, they'll have gone through 4 different directors and 2 (or 3?) different composers.

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