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Comments about the soundtrack for Red Dragon (Danny Elfman)
Why they didn't use Zimmer and his band again?

Levente Benedek
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Why they didn't use Zimmer and his band again?   Tuesday, October 1, 2002 (5:36 a.m.) 

I think the score for Hannibal was one of the most haunting and briliant score from the past 5, or 10 years. Also the Hannibal soundtrack was a hard seller not just by Zimmer fans but also by non-Zimmer fans.
I like Danny Elfman's recent scores, but this time he didn't made any good at all.

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Adam P.
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Re: Why they didn't use Zimmer and his band again?   Tuesday, October 1, 2002 (3:04 p.m.) 

> I think the score for Hannibal was one of the most haunting and briliant
> score from the past 5, or 10 years. Also the Hannibal soundtrack was a
> hard seller not just by Zimmer fans but also by non-Zimmer fans.
I
> like Danny Elfman's recent scores, but this time he didn't made any good
> at all.
Amen to that:) Nobody can compose a score like Hans Zimmer! Any Director who sticks with Zimmer is SMART!

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Jockolantern
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Levente Benedek
Ask an easy question. . . get an easy answer.   Tuesday, October 1, 2002 (5:01 p.m.) 

> I think the score for Hannibal was one of the most haunting and briliant
> score from the past 5, or 10 years. Also the Hannibal soundtrack was a
> hard seller not just by Zimmer fans but also by non-Zimmer fans.
I
> like Danny Elfman's recent scores, but this time he didn't made any good
> at all.

Ridley Scott directed Hannibal; he's teamed up with Zimmer now for his past few films. Red Dragon was directed by Brett Ratner who grabbed up Elfman for his previous film, The Family Man, so it only makes sense he'd pick him up for Red Dragon (obviously, since Ratner's other collaborator, Schifrin, couldn't score a movie like this, really). As for Zimmer's score. . . The addition of the dialogue mixed with the score was a rather rotten touch, and the score itself was just decent. Elfman's score is powerfully haunting and ultimately a very close second to Howard Shore's Silence of the Lambs.

Sayonara!
Jockolantern


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Re: Ask an easy question. . . get an easy answer.   Wednesday, October 2, 2002 (3:48 a.m.) 

In mid 80's Schifrin composed a score for "Mean season" with Kurt Russell and Mariel Hemingway. The plot is similar to "Red dragon", score is terrible though (in my opinion anyway...)

I

> Ridley Scott directed Hannibal; he's teamed up with Zimmer now for his
> past few films. Red Dragon was directed by Brett Ratner who grabbed up
> Elfman for his previous film, The Family Man, so it only makes sense he'd
> pick him up for Red Dragon (obviously, since Ratner's other collaborator,
> Schifrin, couldn't score a movie like this, really). As for Zimmer's
> score. . . The addition of the dialogue mixed with the score was a rather
> rotten touch, and the score itself was just decent. Elfman's score is
> powerfully haunting and ultimately a very close second to Howard Shore's
> Silence of the Lambs.

> Sayonara!
:| Jockolantern


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Levente Benedek
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Re: Ask an easy question. . . get an easy answer.   Friday, October 4, 2002 (5:04 a.m.) 

Lalo Schifrin did Money Talk, Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2, as Brett Ratner did the directing.
The producers of this film were Din De Laurentis, and also Ridley Scott did an uncredited helping for the film. They were both producers of the film Hannibal. That is why my question.

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Michael Björk
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Media Ventures Team   Thursday, October 3, 2002 (6:54 a.m.) 

> I think the score for Hannibal was one of the most haunting and briliant
> score from the past 5, or 10 years. Also the Hannibal soundtrack was a
> hard seller not just by Zimmer fans but also by non-Zimmer fans.
I
> like Danny Elfman's recent scores, but this time he didn't made any good
> at all.

Exactly! Why Elfman? The guys @ Media Ventures could have scored the movie much better!

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Pawel Stroinski
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Re: Media Ventures Team   Tuesday, October 22, 2002 (6:25 a.m.) 

I

> Exactly! Why Elfman? The guys @ Media Ventures could have scored the movie
> much better!

I agree. Hannibal is actually my favorite Zimmer and my favorite score of all time!

Pawel

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Michael Björk
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Fowler?   Thursday, October 3, 2002 (7:03 a.m.) 

To bad that Zimmer did not get the chance to score this movie, but the score is orchestrated by Zimmers & or Media Ventures favorite orchestrator - Bruce Fowler!

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Re: Fowler?   Thursday, October 10, 2002 (4:59 p.m.) 

> To bad that Zimmer did not get the chance to score this movie, but the
> score is orchestrated by Zimmers & or Media Ventures favorite
> orchestrator - Bruce Fowler!

The score is orchestrated by Steve Bartek, Edgardo Simone, Bruce Fowler and David Sloanaker. Fowler also co-orchestrated MEN IN BLACK II. The fact that he worked on RED DRAGON is no connection to HANNIBAL.

Ryan

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Michael Björk
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Re: Fowler?   Thursday, October 10, 2002 (11:25 p.m.) 

> The score is orchestrated by Steve Bartek, Edgardo Simone, Bruce Fowler
> and David Sloanaker. Fowler also co-orchestrated MEN IN BLACK II. The fact
> that he worked on RED DRAGON is no connection to HANNIBAL.

> Ryan

That is true. I just forgot to write "co-orchestrated" & i also know
that his work on RED DRAGON has no connection to HANNIBAL. But i did not
know about MEN IN BlACK. I know better know. Thanks mate!

//Mike

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Christian Kühn
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Levente Benedek
You're wrong. *NM*   Tuesday, October 29, 2002 (6:13 a.m.) 



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