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This review is way off...

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This review is way off...   Monday, February 28, 2011 (3:36 p.m.) 
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I agree with most of the reviews on this site, but this one seems way off. This score complimented film exceptionally well. It's strange that some people only consider orchestral music appropriate for film. Too bad.



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Re: This review is way off...   Tuesday, March 1, 2011 (9:53 a.m.) 

> I agree with most of the reviews on this site, but this one seems way off.
> This score complimented film exceptionally well. It's strange that some
> people only consider orchestral music appropriate for film. Too bad.

I have not seen the film, so I cannot comment on how it supports he movie, but a score can both successfully support the movie AND be good as stand alone music. While the quality of the music is highly subjective, many people (myself included) say the music by itself sucks. In fact, the only real defense I've heard of the score is that it supports the movie well - I haven't heard anyone say they like the actual music itself

I disagree about scores being limited to orchestras, however. While "Tron" did have an orchestra, it was primarily the electronic elements one would expect from Daft Punk that dominate the score and rate so highly with the fans. It is also an example of how a score can support the movie (like TSN), be primarily electronic (like TSN), consist of very simple themes (like TSN), but be enjoyable (unlike TSN).


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Re: This review is way off...   Wednesday, March 30, 2011 (3:29 p.m.) 

An update since I have now seen the movie. Some of the music suited the film well, just as many supporters have argued. I was always willing to concede this, but it still has so many shortcomings. The use of "In the Hall of the Mountain King" was terrible. First of all, this piece has been rearranged for a rock band numerous times, and this is by no means the best. Second, as I listened to it alone, I imagined some sort of frantic or comedic scene. Instead, the scene it accompanies in the film is not frantic, or the least bit comedic. Instead, I see the characters showing intense focus. The music was incredibly and unforgivably distracting in this scene. Any composer should know this scene was scored wrong.

Beside that, the score was quite supportive of the film, but so was "How to Train Your Dragon", and that is actually enjoyable separate from the film (something TSN is not).



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Re: This review is way off...   Tuesday, May 10, 2011 (11:44 a.m.) 

> An update since I have now seen the movie. Some of the music suited the
> film well, just as many supporters have argued. I was always willing to
> concede this, but it still has so many shortcomings. The use of "In
> the Hall of the Mountain King" was terrible. First of all, this piece
> has been rearranged for a rock band numerous times, and this is by no
> means the best. Second, as I listened to it alone, I imagined some sort of
> frantic or comedic scene. Instead, the scene it accompanies in the film is
> not frantic, or the least bit comedic. Instead, I see the characters
> showing intense focus. The music was incredibly and unforgivably
> distracting in this scene. Any composer should know this scene was scored
> wrong.

> Beside that, the score was quite supportive of the film, but so was
> "How to Train Your Dragon", and that is actually enjoyable
> separate from the film (something TSN is not).

Or you know, not and it works great. Fincher and me being happy with the results of Hall of the Mountain King. I listen to Social Network all the time out of the film. I also love the scores for part 1 and 2 to Red Cliff. A score I might add which Christian hasn't even bothered to review on here. Too much hot air perhaps extended towards films such like Inception and Social Network that he should actually look for music overseas for wonderful work a bit more instead of complaining about "Western" scores so much.



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Re: This review is way off...   Monday, July 11, 2011 (5:08 p.m.) 

> Or you know, not and it works great. Fincher and me being happy with the
> results of Hall of the Mountain King. I listen to Social Network all the
> time out of the film. I also love the scores for part 1 and 2 to Red
> Cliff. A score I might add which Christian hasn't even bothered to review
> on here. Too much hot air perhaps extended towards films such like
> Inception and Social Network that he should actually look for music
> overseas for wonderful work a bit more instead of complaining about
> "Western" scores so much.

"Or you know, not" is your response? I doubt the score's success is all attributable to the music. I believe the Academy picked it because they liked the movie - I doubt the majority of voters know much/care much for film music. I'm not saying that because I think this is a terrible score that you should too. It's all subjective anyway, and I'm glad SOMEONE enjoys it. I was just hoping for an interesting discussion on the subject, or, you know, not.


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Re: This review is way off...   Monday, July 11, 2011 (6:37 p.m.) 

> "Or you know, not" is your response? I doubt the score's success
> is all attributable to the music. I believe the Academy picked it because
> they liked the movie - I doubt the majority of voters know much/care much
> for film music. I'm not saying that because I think this is a terrible
> score that you should too. It's all subjective anyway, and I'm glad
> SOMEONE enjoys it. I was just hoping for an interesting discussion on the
> subject, or, you know, not.

My point was that "some" and then some people on this earth actually consider it a great, unique score among others. Like I said Clemmenson really ignores a whole heap of fantastic scores around the globe too with so much wasted energy in these venom filled reviews. Disregarding the Academy to begin with, lots out there think a lot of this score. Get over it.


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Re: This review is way off...   Tuesday, February 7, 2012 (7:03 a.m.) 

> "Or you know, not" is your response? I doubt the score's success
> is all attributable to the music. I believe the Academy picked it because
> they liked the movie - I doubt the majority of voters know much/care much
> for film music. I'm not saying that because I think this is a terrible
> score that you should too. It's all subjective anyway, and I'm glad
> SOMEONE enjoys it. I was just hoping for an interesting discussion on the
> subject, or, you know, not.

you dont have a clue how many people enjoy this lol. it breathes nine inch nails and those writing stylistics aint for everyone.



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Re: This review is way off...   Thursday, August 11, 2011 (9:12 a.m.) 

> I haven't heard anyone say they like the actual music itself

Well, now you have. I owned and listened to the score to death for months before I actually got around to seeing the movie (not that I didn't want to, it just never came together. It ended up being great, really great in fact. Fincher's other masterpiece). I'm constantly rotating music in my itunes, but The Social Network score hasn't left it in damn near a year.


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Re: This review is way off...   Wednesday, March 2, 2011 (1:58 p.m.) 

> This score complimented film exceptionally well.

This is what I don't get - I've seen the film twice now, and on both occasions I didn't really notice the score at all. I therefore bought it on album to see what it was like...I regret doing so...

> It's strange that some people only consider orchestral music appropriate

I have no problem with synthesized scores - if they're well done...this sounds like it was performed on a second hand keyboard in someone's bedroom.

One of the top 5 worst scores I've ever heard.



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Re: This review is way off...   Monday, March 7, 2011 (12:24 p.m.) 
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I agree. A negative review for the score is one thing, but I was primarily repelled by the style of the review, tossing around casual invectives in that smug, troll-baiting, "Heh, deal with it, losers" way that seems to be the Official Voice of so many Internet reviewers who deal in reactionary opinion rather than analysis. This is a pity because some of these same reviewers can actually be quite insightful when it's about a product they actually like. The implication that this music is somehow below analysis is disturbing and completely off the mark in my opinion.

I won't go so far as to say my own opinion about Reznor & Ross's score was validated by its Academy Award win (I see a measure of stunt-awarding in that award, honestly, and I don't think TSN was the best of those nominated, much less the year), but I am thankful that there are people with clout in Hollywood who were prepared to take this sort of music seriously for a change. I find a lot of beauty in the TSN score -- not the same kind of beauty as in a sweeping orchestral score, but beauty nonetheless. And it was exceedingly well-suited to its film: I don't see how an orchestral score, or indeed any score different from the one we got, would've complemented the movie as well as this one.



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Re: This review is way off...   Tuesday, July 26, 2011 (6:05 a.m.) 

> I agree with most of the reviews on this site, but this one seems way off.
> This score complimented film exceptionally well. It's strange that some
> people only consider orchestral music appropriate for film. Too bad.

Only orchestral?...
See: Tron Legacy, Hoosiers, and Crimson Tide. Tron Legacy heavily utilized synth... but in a good way. Crimson Tide was composed literally completely out of synth. Hoosiers also utilized a basically completely synth based score that was fantastic (or I loved it anyways). What this music did wrong wasn't the synth; rather, it was the like of a predominant theme, development of that theme, or even any truly smart music in it. There's no complexity, no emotion, no themes, no character. It's all atmosphere, and that's why it doesn't pass as music. It's just repeated instrumental loops fitting with what's happening on screen. I loved the movie, and I loved how the music complimented the movie, but as a listening experience and as a standalone piece of music, The Social Network is one of the worst scores available. Its liberal use of In the Hall of the Mountain King was especially stupid, if you ask me.


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Re: This review is way off...   Thursday, September 1, 2011 (7:21 p.m.) 

> I agree with most of the reviews on this site, but this one seems way off.
> This score complimented film exceptionally well. It's strange that some
> people only consider orchestral music appropriate for film. Too bad.

Have you seen Bladerunner or played Mass Effect or even Halo? Synth scores can be good. Too bad this one sucked balls.


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