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Comments about the soundtrack for Star Trek (Michael Giacchino)

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Re: Disappointing soundtrack
• Posted by: Ken   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, at 7:07 p.m.
• IP Address: pool-98-112-198-33.lsanca.fios.verizon.net
• In Response to: Re: Disappointing soundtrack (Mike)

YES YES YES YES!!!! In all honesty, my best friend and I walked out of the theater both thinking that the main theme of this movie would be much better served as a B-level theme. For me, it would be something akin to Ilea's theme from the original motion picture. It's much more of a love theme than the action theme that Giacchino tried to make it.

AND your comments on the orchestration are completely spot on! It seems like his stuff has just been stale ever since he wrote that piece for Cloverfield. He writes music with one line that repeats from beginning to end (or very near to it) and, in The Incredibles, that was made interesting in certain cues by changing who was playing that line, what range the line was in etc. It seems to me that has been lost in his music ever since ROAR.

I must say, though, that the ending credits are my very favorite part of the score because there is so much life in how he treats Alexander Courage's theme. Although I definitely believe that using his main theme over the fanfare theme while Leonard Nimoy is making the speech) was not very good. I just don't hear how they fit together (probably 'cause they really don't.)

All-in-all, yeah I was disappointed in the score. But luckily, it's good enough to be enjoyed now and again.

Wonderful observations, both of you.

> I agree whole-heartedly.

> The film was a lot of fun, and a fresh take on what could very easily have
> been stale material.

> My major complaint about the score (as heard within the context of the
> film, and not as a stand alone CD), however, deals with what I see as
> misuse of thematic content.

> While some scenes are tremendously powerful - demonstrating, I am sure,
> that Giacchino does have a great musical talent - there is so much
> ill-advised use of thematic material, seemingly out of context, that it
> ruins the overall effect.

> What I presume is to be called the "enterprise theme" (opening
> credits, when we first see the enterprise, etc...) is FAR too present, and
> particularly in scenes where the Enterprise and her crew are NOT the focus
> of the action (notably during the destruction of the Romulan vessel at the
> end).

> There are many fine bits of scoring int he film, I don't anyone to think I
> hate the whole score or how it is inserted into the film. But there are
> far too many moments where the music is too "pompous" and
> cartoonish.

> Add to that the orchestration has a tendency to a stale 2-dimensional
> style (very reminiscent of Hans Zimmer's orchestral style). There isn't
> enough actual orchestral counterpoint and the textures of the
> orchestration tend to be rather bland and repetitive, relying far too much
> on overly obvious devices (pounding drums, string ostinati, etc..).

> The moment where all of this comes to a final blow, is the closing
> credits. Superimposing Giacchino's music over Alexander Courage's original
> trek theme only serves to highlight how dismal the orchestration is and
> how 2-dimensional the harmony and thematic treatment are.

> I loved the film, so I would give the score a good rating purely because
> it is associated with a film I enjoyed.

> If I were rating this as a stand-alone score, it would get a failing mark,
> for all of the above reasons.




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