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Re: Holst
• Posted by: roybatty   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Thursday, October 5, 2006, at 7:54 p.m.
• IP Address: bb-87-82-29-186.ukonline.co.uk
• In Response to: Re: Holst (Rolan)

> Listen to the ending (last like 20 seconds) of "Imperial Attack"
> (available on the 1997 RCA and 2004 Sony Classical Recordings). It ends
> with soft tremolo high strings and alternating harp glissandos (not
> celesta, my mistake). But regardless, it gives a feeling of parts of
> Holst's Neptune.

It's true - it does sound lik Neptune. But then, Williams was heavily influenced by Romantic Classical music (at Lucas's request) and the finished product, while bearing the composer's own mark, is very much a patchwork of derived ideas and motifs. Other examples which I noticed ( and have been confirmed by expers)include the rebellion theme (or is it called the resistence theme?) which lifts a three-note motif from "The sorcerer's Apprentice" by Dukas: da-daaaaaaa-dum, da-daaaaaa-dum. Also, the Main Theme/Luke's Theme utilizes the structural pattern of Wagner's "Ride of the Walkyries" while the tonality of it seems indebted to Korngold's score to "King's Row". Additionally, if you don't know this already, you'l notice how the "Force Theme" uses the structural contours of "Adante" from Tchaikovsky's "SWAN LAKE" So it could well be regarded as a reworking of that original melody. However, it must be frankly admitted that this kind of practice with Williams is by no means limited to Star Wars, oh no. Many have noticed that the two-note ostinato shark-motif in Jaws is the exact same as the opening of the fourth movement of Dvorak's Symphony No.9, while not so many have noticed that the first six notes of the "out to sea" theme have been lifted from Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf". I've also read somewhere that the melody from Schindler's List is derived from one of Mahler's symphonies, and I believe that the Jurassic Park theme is asort of "slow-tempo" version of Bach's Brandenburg concerto no.3 in D. This last one is perhaps more controversial: no one else seems to have mentioned anywhere, but i'm pretty convinced that,although the tonality is different,the underlying structure is the same as the Bach.




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           Arne Barnard - Wednesday, January 13, 2016, at 8:25 p.m.
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           Rolan - Monday, September 4, 2006, at 1:38 p.m.
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             roybatty - Thursday, October 5, 2006, at 7:54 p.m.
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               S.Venkatnarayanan - Monday, May 12, 2008, at 3:39 a.m.
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               Rolan - Sunday, February 25, 2007, at 10:41 a.m.
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               Alice Keymer - Sunday, December 31, 2006, at 5:53 p.m.
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