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Re: Holst
• Posted by: Alice Keymer   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Sunday, December 31, 2006, at 5:53 p.m.
• IP Address: cache-los-ac05.proxy.aol.com
• In Response to: Re: Holst (roybatty)

> It's true - it does sound lik Neptune. But then, Williams was heavily
> influenced by Romantic Classical music (at Lucas's request) and the
> finished product, while bearing the composer's own mark, is very much a
> patchwork of derived ideas and motifs. Other examples which I noticed (
> and have been confirmed by expers)include the rebellion theme (or is it
> called the resistence theme?) which lifts a three-note motif from
> "The sorcerer's Apprentice" by Dukas: da-daaaaaaa-dum,
> da-daaaaaa-dum. Also, the Main Theme/Luke's Theme utilizes the structural
> pattern of Wagner's "Ride of the Walkyries" while the tonality
> of it seems indebted to Korngold's score to "King's Row".
> Additionally, if you don't know this already, you'l notice how the
> "Force Theme" uses the structural contours of "Adante"
> from Tchaikovsky's "SWAN LAKE" So it could well be regarded as a
> reworking of that original melody. However, it must be frankly admitted
> that this kind of practice with Williams is by no means limited to Star
> Wars, oh no. Many have noticed that the two-note ostinato shark-motif in
> Jaws is the exact same as the opening of the fourth movement of Dvorak's
> Symphony No.9, while not so many have noticed that the first six notes of
> the "out to sea" theme have been lifted from Prokofiev's
> "Peter and the Wolf". I've also read somewhere that the melody
> from Schindler's List is derived from one of Mahler's symphonies, and I
> believe that the Jurassic Park theme is asort of "slow-tempo"
> version of Bach's Brandenburg concerto no.3 in D. This last one is perhaps
> more controversial: no one else seems to have mentioned anywhere, but i'm
> pretty convinced that,although the tonality is different,the underlying
> structure is the same as the Bach.

What is the force theme. I have never heard of the force theme. Do you mean the throne room?




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       Rolan - Sunday, July 9, 2006, at 8:07 p.m.
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           Arne Barnard - Wednesday, January 13, 2016, at 8:25 p.m.
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           Rolan - Monday, September 4, 2006, at 1:38 p.m.
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             roybatty - Thursday, October 5, 2006, at 7:54 p.m.
          •    Absolutely Wrong  (11046 views)
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               Rolan - Sunday, February 25, 2007, at 10:41 a.m.
          •      Re: Holst  (11532 views)    We're Here
               Alice Keymer - Sunday, December 31, 2006, at 5:53 p.m.
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                 Mister Frodo - Wednesday, February 7, 2007, at 9:07 p.m.
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               Steen Kaargaard Nielsen - Saturday, October 7, 2006, at 2:39 a.m.


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