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Re: Titanic is nothing short of OBNOXIOUS, PLAGIARISTIC, and CHEESY
• Posted by: roybatty   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Saturday, September 30, 2006, at 7:31 p.m.
• IP Address: bb-87-82-29-186.ukonline.co.uk
• In Response to: Re: Titanic is nothing short of OBNOXIOUS, PLA... (Danny French)

> We certainly can, though I fail to see what relevance it has to this
> discussion. If anybody can be accused of hypocracy, it is Mr Horner
> himself, who has been quoted a number of times in interviews as despising
> plagiarism and consciously avoiding it himself, whilst simultaneously
> recycling the same passages of music, time and time again, across
> twenty-five years of film scoring.

> I apologise for sounding like an arrogant git in my previous post (it was
> four years ago) but I do maintain Horner is indeed a thief - from himself,
> from Prokofiev, and from two dozen other composers considerably more
> talented than he. Anybody who does not spot these thefts is a) not
> familiar with the stolen works, b) is completely oblivious to flashes of
> the blinding obvious, or c) is so completely brainwashed by (inexplicable)
> Horner adoration, that he cannot begin to accept that Horner isn't all
> he's cracked up to be.

> The thefts are at any rate NOT a matter for discussion, or are they a
> subjective opinion. They are pure physical fact in most cases - the other
> cases are readily evident to anybody with even a cursory musical education
> and a mind open enough to accept that Horner has flaws.

> Danny Why are all criticisms of James Horner's music so vehemently accusatory, while other composers like John Williams, Hanz Zimmer and (esp.) Howard Shore are easily given the benefit of the doubt? I don't believe that Horner has, on the whole, plagiarised any more than they have, maybe even less!! It wouldn't be difficult to draw a list of material that Williams has stolen/borderline stolen over the yeare which would easily equal the total of Horner's thefts. Likewise, The Lord of the Rings by Shore probably contains more thefts/"borrowings" than in Horner's entire ouvre!!!




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