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Re: Are you dumb!
Posted by: Zephros Date: Sunday, April 4, 2004, at 6:32 a.m.
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In Response to:
Are you dumb! (Kingdom Come)
> Well, it's obvious you like your scores full of cliches and good luck to
> ya! I am not interested in 'cover versions' of past John Barry Bond
> scores. For one thing, it shows little imagination. Goldeneye's score was
> something very fresh and unusual; something that brought Bond screaming
> out of the 70s. Arnold's scores are tired; bored; boring; backward looking
> and you end up counting how many times you hear other composers styles in
> his writing. Arnold is a hack. Serra is an original. Barry is an original.
> Williams is an orginal etc. You obviously feel comforted by familarity, as
> I do in regards to Barry's music outside Bond. Barry reinvented the wheel
> in the early films. Serra did it for Goldeneye, at the request of the Bond
> producers.
Serra was and is not fresh OR original. Listen to his score for Goldeneye. Then listen to his score for The Fifth Element. You can barely tell them apart! The man is a hack, and I couldn't agree more with Christian's reviews for both Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies, except that the latter probably deserved another star. It's not cliche, it's called continuity. It would be cliche if it was just another spy movie, but not James Bond. But it is James Bond, and Bond scores have a similar sound. Why? Because that's how you recognise the score, and that's how a good score works. The Bond theme is obligatory in a Bond movie, and Serra mutated it to be almost unrecognisable in his mess of a score. The Bond theme was heard once in its full glory in that film, and that scene wasn't even composed by Serra. It was composed and arranged by Nic Raine.
Arnold's score balances the traditional orchestral element, the big, brassy and electric guitar that is Bond and the modern synthesizers to make a whole, cohesive score. Now, I'm not saying that I have more knowledge of film scores than you, but I can be almost positive that Christian knows what he is talking about, moreso than you.
If you think that this is cliche, I'd hate to see what you think is orginal... Certainly not Goldeneye I hope.
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Zephros - Sunday, April 4, 2004, at 6:32 a.m.
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