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Comments about the soundtrack for Troy (Gabriel Yared/James Horner)
"Remember" copied from Alan Silvestri's Tomb Raider 2

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"Remember" copied from Alan Silvestri's Tomb Raider 2   Monday, May 31, 2004 (9:43 a.m.) 

Compare http://www.teletracks.com/audio/troy12.ra (12. Remember Me) with http://www.teletracks.com/audio/tomb_raider2_1.ra (1. Opening)

The violin-themes seem awfully similar to me :-)

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I Actually Don't Think So   Monday, May 31, 2004 (1:47 p.m.) 

You have an interesting point, and you are right to notice the similarities. However, all the two pieces have in common are a chord progression; the actual melodies are not the same. Hence, I'm inclined to belived this is not a rip-off, as the chord progression used in both pieces is actually extremely common in film music, particularly in Middle-eastern themed movies. Both Horner and Silvestri, as well as countless other film composers have used this progression in past scores. David Arnold's Stargate uses this chord progression, as well as Horner's Glory, both of which predate Tomb Raider (which also borrows this chord progression from the Mummy Returns). To say that Horner's is a rip-off (at least of someone else) and Silvestri's is original is inaccurate, and, I think, unfair.

Now I could be wrong, but I don't think so here. Tell me what you think.

Take it easy.

(By the way, the clip from Tomb Raider sounded pretty interesting... is the rest of the score as good... I have not heard the whole thing)

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Re: I Actually Don't Think So   Thursday, June 3, 2004 (5:23 a.m.) 

> You have an interesting point, and you are right to notice the
> similarities. However, all the two pieces have in common are a chord
> progression; the actual melodies are not the same. Hence, I'm inclined to
> belived this is not a rip-off, as the chord progression used in both
> pieces is actually extremely common in film music, particularly in
> Middle-eastern themed movies. Both Horner and Silvestri, as well as
> countless other film composers have used this progression in past scores.
> David Arnold's Stargate uses this chord progression, as well as Horner's
> Glory, both of which predate Tomb Raider (which also borrows this chord
> progression from the Mummy Returns). To say that Horner's is a rip-off (at
> least of someone else) and Silvestri's is original is inaccurate, and, I
> think, unfair.

> Now I could be wrong, but I don't think so here. Tell me what you think.

> Take it easy.

> (By the way, the clip from Tomb Raider sounded pretty interesting... is
> the rest of the score as good... I have not heard the whole thing)

Hey! I definitely agreed with you there...when I heard both the Tombraider and Troy scores (I own both of these), I automatically thought...wow, these are ultra typical middle-eastern chord progressions as you said. I've kinda stayed away from that sound on purpose recently, because I feel like I'm listening to Aladdin or Prince of Egypt, anyways, the Tombraider score has about 4 really decent tracks...but the rest are disappointing, normal, stock sound.
I hope that helps

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Re: "Remember" copied from Alan Silvestri's Tomb Raider 2   Saturday, July 17, 2004 (9:42 p.m.) 

I actually think that that could very well be the same thing... if not VERY similar... I like!

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