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An Experiment

JB
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An Experiment   Wednesday, May 19, 2004 (7:52 a.m.) 

First let me get this out of the way. I found the Van Helsing score to be very entertaining, though not as great as I expected.

Now, I have been reading some comments here about choral music getting boring, the string section getting boring, the orchestra getting boring, and so on.

So I thought of a little experiment. I claim film music would sound very cool, if you eliminated orchestral and choral writing from films completely and replaced them with pop songs.

Feel free to comment in any way you like: negatively, positively, interestedly, angrily, how ever you want.

I'll be interested in hearing comments, if this gets off and away.

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Re: An Horrible Experiment   Wednesday, May 19, 2004 (10:50 a.m.) 

Poor Alan! The New Hollywood producers are going to destroy the symphonic music. If Pirates of the caribbean was the begining of the end, this horrible Silvestri´s work, is the result of the actual industry´s decadence. In other time Alan was a first symphony name in the soundtrack world. Now "Van Helsing" is the proof of the last days of wonderful scores like "Judge Dredd", "Ricochet" o "Predator". The worst synths, tipical effects and rythms. Poor melodies and stupid codas for the cues. An horrible experiment! Poor Alan...

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Re: An Horrible Experiment   Wednesday, June 2, 2004 (4:12 p.m.) 

first of all I thought it was pretty good for what scores are now in days, but i've never played the pice so I can't say if it's written bad. if anyone has a copy let me know then I can really judge.

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Worst-idea-ever   Wednesday, May 19, 2004 (5:55 p.m.) 

I'll take the angry one. This "experiment" is in the use for more then some years now! Nearly every film has some pop songs in it to be "cooler" and more appealing.
That also occurred 20 years ago. Many film scores were done with the same synthesiser keyboards and thus the same sound as the songs at the time. In one word: Giorgio Moroder. Soundtracks and especially scores like scarface do not want me get back to that time!! Orchestral film scores had a "come back" anyway and I doubt it will ever die.

Orchestral music is boring? Well then go back to play. Orchestral music is a very elaborate and mature form of music. If you don't understand it, I'm sorry for you. But that doesn't mean it's bad...
Also, I say that people who want only pop songs instead of an original score are musically 'ignorant'(meaning "not knowing) and untrained. (Nobody take offence please)

And finally I have to say it's a shame that you posted this on this site.
Van Helsing is one of the best scores of the past years. Only because it accompanies an average film doesn't mean the score is bad.

Say NO to pop songs in films and NO to pop scores!

Go Silvestri!


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Re: Worst-idea-ever   Thursday, May 20, 2004 (6:47 a.m.) 

> I'll take the angry one. This "experiment" is in the use for
> more then some years now! Nearly every film has some pop songs in it to be
> "cooler" and more appealing.
That also occurred 20 years
> ago. Many film scores were done with the same synthesiser keyboards and
> thus the same sound as the songs at the time. In one word: Giorgio
> Moroder. Soundtracks and especially scores like scarface do not want me
> get back to that time!! Orchestral film scores had a "come back"
> anyway and I doubt it will ever die.

> Orchestral music is boring? Well then go back to play. Orchestral music is
> a very elaborate and mature form of music. If you don't understand it, I'm
> sorry for you. But that doesn't mean it's bad...
Also, I say that
> people who want only pop songs instead of an original score are musically
> 'ignorant'(meaning "not knowing) and untrained. (Nobody take offence
> please)

> And finally I have to say it's a shame that you posted this on this site.
>
Van Helsing is one of the best scores of the past years. Only because
> it accompanies an average film doesn't mean the score is bad.

> Say NO to pop songs in films and NO to pop scores!

> Go Silvestri!

Don't ge me wrong! I don't really enjoy pop-music at all. Owning some 630 CDs of classical music of which about 30 are soundtracks like Star Wars, the Lord of the Rings, The Mummy Returns, Titanic, Batman, etc, etc, I posted this simply for the interest of response people would take if you threw something like this in the air.

Found Van Helsing to be very enjoyable, but comparing to The Mummy Return, not exactly of the same caliber.


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