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Comments about the soundtrack for Along Came a Spider (Jerry Goldsmith)
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Brad Clay
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Alex
Re: Along Came...   Saturday, April 7, 2001 (10:30 a.m.) 

I have been listening to the score on some good headphones since Tuesday and I find it entertaining and creepy enough. I think that there is a great orchestral depth considering that this was played with a smaller than usual orchestra.

Consider, Goldsmith does not have to make every score a career topper, or even most or all track to be showpieces. It is unrealistic to compare every new Goldsmith score to our personal favorites; Star Trek TMP, Omen, Total Recall. I cannot find a single score where Goldsmith is not inventive and peculiar in his composition. He has brought himself up to date perpetually and he is using the soundscape of modern cinema in ways composers 1/3 his age are'nt even trying.

I love Hollow Man, I thought The Haunting was shimmering and elegant, and Along cCame a Spider is just fine, it is moody, eccentric and powerful.

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Andrés
Re: Along Came...   Sunday, April 8, 2001 (7:02 p.m.) 

OKay, I saw the movie this friday, and the score is as bad as the movie. It, like the movie, leaves no room for suspense, and is completely generic. I couldn't stand the "Hitchcock like" lines that filled the score. It's creepy allright. Creepy to think that Jerry Goldsmith wrote this score. A positive though, was that I saw a preview for Pearl Harbor, and the score (BY Hans ZImmer(sounds stupendes.


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Re: Along Came...   Monday, April 9, 2001 (4:22 p.m.) 

> OKay, I saw the movie this friday, and the score is as bad as the movie.
> It, like the movie, leaves no room for suspense, and is completely
> generic. I couldn't stand the "Hitchcock like" lines that filled
> the score. It's creepy allright. Creepy to think that Jerry Goldsmith
> wrote this score. A positive though, was that I saw a preview for Pearl
> Harbor, and the score (BY Hans ZImmer(sounds stupendes.

So that, speaking of sophistication and originality....you praise Zimmer....oh, the world has gone mad, really. =

Mr. Goldsmith will be very happy to know that Zimmer freaks bash his work, go on this way, please. =

Andrés.

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the shadow
Re: Along Came...   Wednesday, April 18, 2001 (12:34 a.m.) 

> So that, speaking of sophistication and originality....you praise
> Zimmer....oh, the world has gone mad, really. =

> Mr. Goldsmith will be very happy to know that Zimmer freaks bash his work,
> go on this way, please. =

> Andrés.

Except for the fact that every motif, every phrase, every suspenseful pounce came directly out of another one of Mr. Goldsmith's scores. Even Zimmer has tact enough to compose some original music in a film (and when he can't he hires someone in Media Ventures who can ). No, when I hear Ghost in the Darkness and Malice through out an entire movie that has neither Lions nor Nicole Kidman I shake my head. (tis as sad as when I watch a movie about a Russian sniper and envision the skull mask from Willow and the opening credits from Braveheart).

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Re: Along Came...   Tuesday, May 8, 2001 (2:18 a.m.) 

hans zimmer always sounds like hans zimmer. no sign of going on. rain man sounds like backdraft sounds like lion king sounds like black rain sounds like prince of egypt (except the brilliant dream-sequence!) sounds like gladiator (oh sorry, i forgot, it´s more than bad, because he tryed to sound like a composer, it´s pure horror, never heard something bad as this!)....
he really is one of the most boring and "stillstanding" composers. he could also "make", not compose, popmusic or trance, techno, dancefloor. he´s the britney spears of filmscoring.
greetings from germany to a german...naz... ooohh, i don´t know what zimmer is!


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Re: Along Came...   Wednesday, May 9, 2001 (4:12 p.m.) 

Your review is not coherent, and I am not sure what you mean by it. Hans Zimmer is not the "Britney Spears of film scoring." He did a lot of great scores; like The Rock, and Gladiator. Hello? Gladiator was nominated for the best score at the Academy Awards. It would have won too, except the Academy plays games. Zimmer is a genius, he provides interesting and rare music for films. While Zimmer will never be Jerry Goldsmith, he does do a respectable job. He has his Media Ventures firm, in which he invites other composers to work along side him in movies. This always makes his scores sound DIFFERENT.
I don't think there's anymore to say, it's childish to debate Zimmer's abilities.

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Incohesive gibberish   Saturday, February 23, 2002 (4:44 p.m.) 

> hans zimmer always sounds like hans zimmer. no sign of going on. rain man
> sounds like backdraft sounds like lion king sounds like black rain sounds
> like prince of egypt (except the brilliant dream-sequence!) sounds like
> gladiator (oh sorry, i forgot, it´s more than bad, because he tryed to
> sound like a composer, it´s pure horror, never heard something bad as
> this!)....
he really is one of the most boring and
> "stillstanding" composers. he could also "make", not
> compose, popmusic or trance, techno, dancefloor. he´s the britney spears
> of filmscoring.
greetings from germany to a german...naz... ooohh, i
> don´t know what zimmer is!

Klepto's right, this isn't not even cohesive.
Sorry, but Black Rain doesn't sound like The Lion King or Gladiator or any of those. I can't imagine how you could say Drop Zone sounds anything like As Good As It Gets.

Everyone knows what the next Goldsmith score will sound like (more or less). That's not true with Hans Zimmer. Just look at BLACK HAWK DOWN. I doubt there's anyone here that could have guessed correctly what that would sound like (it's hard enough just to DESCRIBE!)

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Re: Along Came...   Wednesday, April 18, 2001 (6:48 p.m.) 

Andres:
Hans Zimmer is great, and his scores are excellent. However, I am not going to discuss your comparison of him to Jerry Goldsmith. Alright, so Jerry Goldsmith did not score this film to your liking. Fine. Yet he is the GREATEST film composer to have lived. He leaves John Williams, Hans Zimmer, and James Horner in the dust. He has scored so many movies, that any work of the previous mentioned composers looks small. Jerry Goldsmith is the OLDEST film composer, give him a break. He practically was one of the founders of film scoring. So take this into consideration upon your next comment posting.

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