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Comments about the soundtrack for Star Wars: Attack of the Clones (John Williams)

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Re: Tarkin's Teeth!!!!!
• Posted by: juju-bean
• Date: Thursday, May 23, 2002, at 12:08 a.m.
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• In Response to: Tarkin's Teeth!!!!! (Grand Admiral Thrawn)

Yeah? I transcribe music by ear and the theme is definately similar. I too have looked over the music. It is not the exact same but definately similar. In the love theme he raises the melody a minor sixth two the 3rd tone, since key is arbitrary lets say its in, c minor, this note would would be an Eb. It then moves a minor third down to its root. The melody then proceeds a perfect fourth up and plays a triplet figure around the Eb, (F, Eb, D,Eb) resolving to tonic. Then it plays a triplet figure around D down a major third to Bb then up a Major second to the tonic(Eb, D, C, D, Bb, C). Then a maj second down and then a minor third down, bringing us back to the fourth below C, which will lead to the Eb once again. Now, in hook, (lets use c minor again) he goes from the G up a P4 (this is one of the differences between the interval relationships. It is easily recognized as the same tonality, but due to the context of the film he chose the more heroic sounding P4, as the minor sixth sounds more pretty and sad) to the tonic, C. Then repeating the tonic he rises a fourth and performs the same figure around the Eb; again, repeats the tonic and plays the figure around D, then down a major third to the G. It of course is not the exact same but very similar. From there the themes obviously seperate, I'm just explaining the interval relationships in the beginnings of the melody are relatively the same... this is what people are hearing and this is why people think its the same melody. I say: its similar at the beginning but the themes are not clones. Personnally, i don't see what the big deal is; he merely uses a similar motif over a similar structure. The speed, and the rhythm from which they are played is completely different and the emotion placed into the piece is also very different. Furthermore, it sounds like the love theme is in triple meter; again, different than Hook. I very much respect John Williams music, and i think it is tragic it has apparently been so abused in the most recent star wars movie.

BTW: I am referring to the theme played at the beginning of the hook prologue... sorry if i went over some of you guys's heads :P If someone out there feels like correcting me, go ahead, i have the right to be completely wrong :P

Comments in this Thread:     Expand >>
  • Re-Used theme  (7335 views)
       John - Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 1:56 p.m.
    •    Hook Theme  (7406 views)
         Admiral Piett - Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 8:23 a.m.
    •    No!!  (7410 views)
         The Ranter - Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 6:13 p.m.
      •    Re: No!!  (7269 views)
           clone 5 - Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 7:12 p.m.
        •    Re: No!!  (7309 views)
             juju-bean - Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 11:55 p.m.

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