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Comments on AOTC music

Andy F
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Comments on AOTC music   Sunday, May 19, 2002 (6:35 p.m.) 

I saw AOTC for a second time this afternoon to take in the music and the special effects. The movie didn't get any better, but I did appreciate the score more than during the first time. Most of the score in the film was outstanding, but why did Lucas maim the wonderful music John Williams composed for the conveyer belt sequence? Instead we get a mish mash of Yoda's theme, the Force theme, the Chase through Coruscant music. The originally composed music finally shows up in the concluding moments. Why even use it at all?! Lucas wasted some excellent suspense music. I didn't mind the reuse of TPM action music for the final battles, much of the action music from Star Wars and Empire show up in Return of the Jedi. The music was used appropriately, and I really loved the reappearance of the action theme that first appeared in "The Escape from Naboo" of the TPM soundtrack. In my opinion, that is some of the best action music Mr. Williams has ever composed. There were some incredible musical moments during the last act of the film. Top on my list is the desperate swelling of the force theme while Anakin and Obi-Wan argue about duty while pursuing Dooku. In my opinion that was the emotional high point of the film and Williams nailed it flawlessly. The choir chanting while Yoda ignited his light saber was absolutely stunning as well. There were numerous other great moments in the film! It may have been edited a bit harshly, but John Williams did a phenomenal job. What does everyone else think about his score, any other favorite moments?

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Re: Comments on AOTC music   Sunday, May 19, 2002 (11:15 p.m.) 

> I saw AOTC for a second time this afternoon to take in the music and the
> special effects. The movie didn't get any better, but I did appreciate the
> score more than during the first time. Most of the score in the film was
> outstanding, but why did Lucas maim the wonderful music John Williams
> composed for the conveyer belt sequence? Instead we get a mish mash of
> Yoda's theme, the Force theme, the Chase through Coruscant music. The
> originally composed music finally shows up in the concluding moments. Why
> even use it at all?! Lucas wasted some excellent suspense music. I didn't
> mind the reuse of TPM action music for the final battles, much of the
> action music from Star Wars and Empire show up in Return of the Jedi. The
> music was used appropriately, and I really loved the reappearance of the
> action theme that first appeared in "The Escape from Naboo" of
> the TPM soundtrack. In my opinion, that is some of the best action music
> Mr. Williams has ever composed. There were some incredible musical moments
> during the last act of the film. Top on my list is the desperate swelling
> of the force theme while Anakin and Obi-Wan argue about duty while
> pursuing Dooku. In my opinion that was the emotional high point of the
> film and Williams nailed it flawlessly. The choir chanting while Yoda
> ignited his light saber was absolutely stunning as well. There were
> numerous other great moments in the film! It may have been edited a bit
> harshly, but John Williams did a phenomenal job. What does everyone else
> think about his score, any other favorite moments?

I also happen to like escape from naboo track as an action cue but I really didn't like it's use in escape from the arena scene. And droid battle track during the arena. The whole sequence needed one looooooooooong track.

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roberto
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ChewieKaBlooey
Re: Comments on AOTC music   Thursday, May 23, 2002 (1:23 p.m.) 

> I also happen to like escape from naboo track as an action cue but I
> really didn't like it's use in escape from the arena scene. And droid
> battle track during the arena. The whole sequence needed one
> looooooooooong track.

Yes!! I wanted to hear a new, wonderful score for the battle.

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Re: Comments on AOTC music   Saturday, May 25, 2002 (11:54 a.m.) 

> Yes!! I wanted to hear a new, wonderful score for the battle.

NO Kidding! I was very disaoppointed... That's what I get for being obsessed with music enough to be able to recognize retracking. Oh well... Fun movie though.

ChewieKaBlooey

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Re: Comments on AOTC music   Monday, May 20, 2002 (2:06 a.m.) 

> I saw AOTC for a second time this afternoon to take in the music and the
> special effects. The movie didn't get any better, but I did appreciate the
> score more than during the first time. Most of the score in the film was
> outstanding, but why did Lucas maim the wonderful music John Williams
> composed for the conveyer belt sequence? Instead we get a mish mash of
> Yoda's theme, the Force theme, the Chase through Coruscant music. The
> originally composed music finally shows up in the concluding moments. Why
> even use it at all?! Lucas wasted some excellent suspense music. I didn't
> mind the reuse of TPM action music for the final battles, much of the
> action music from Star Wars and Empire show up in Return of the Jedi. The
> music was used appropriately, and I really loved the reappearance of the
> action theme that first appeared in "The Escape from Naboo" of
> the TPM soundtrack. In my opinion, that is some of the best action music
> Mr. Williams has ever composed. There were some incredible musical moments
> during the last act of the film. Top on my list is the desperate swelling
> of the force theme while Anakin and Obi-Wan argue about duty while
> pursuing Dooku. In my opinion that was the emotional high point of the
> film and Williams nailed it flawlessly. The choir chanting while Yoda
> ignited his light saber was absolutely stunning as well. There were
> numerous other great moments in the film! It may have been edited a bit
> harshly, but John Williams did a phenomenal job. What does everyone else
> think about his score, any other favorite moments?

Well, I have really enjoyed both the movie and the score. What's important to remember is that in the film business, it's movie first, score second (or third, or fourth...). I enjoyed the film immensely, and the bizzare circumstance of being able to learn the soundtrack album beforehand in no way diminished the experience. I usually don't like to listen to film music without knowing why it was created (i.e. the film in question), but AOTC was a very enjoyable soundtrack in it's own right. So what if Lucas borrowed from TPM and edited the music all over the place. That's why Williams has the soundtrack album. This sort of thing has been happenning ever since films got sound. Look at poor Alex North's score for "2001". At least Lucas didn't replace Williams with Johann Strauss and others (as did Kubrick for North in the aforementioned film). Composing music isn't easy (believe me, I've done it). I can't imagine what it's like to labor over something for weeks just to have it rejected! To have the kind of presentation that Williams has just months after the music's creation is a singular distinction. Remember, none of this music existed a year ago. For most composers, it's a campaign to get just a read through of a new piece.

Okay, enough said. "Attack of the Clones" was the highlight of my weekend. I've greatly enjoyed both the film and the soundtrack, warts and all!

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