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Re: Words of a real fan
• Posted by: Andy F   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 4:20 p.m.
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• In Response to: Words of a real fan (Michael Walton)

> Im an avid star wars fan since I was five. When I saw those spaceships
> flyin' across the screen I fell in love with the movies. In 97' when I
> heard about the new trilogy, I nearly wet my pants from excitemnet. So 99'
> rolled around and I saw the Phantom Menace. I liked it, but I was a bit
> dissapointed. It lacked quite a bit from the old trilogy, for example, the
> humor. In the old Star Wars the humor came from the interaction of the
> droids. The humor was really corny sometimes, but its was funny. Episode I
> had Jar Jar Binks... enough said. Plus it kinda plodded along in some
> areas. But all in all, it was good. Episode II Attack of the Clones was
> far better than Episode I. The action scenes are awsome and well put
> together. The soundtrack is the best I've heard from Williams in while.
> The soundtrack really brings forward the dark emotions that you beggining
> to feel. Hayden, the guy who played Anakin, did a pretty good job. Give
> the kid a break, he hasn't had that much acting expirence, he's not Sir
> Alec Guiness. Ewan Mcgregor, however, dose an outstnding job. He even
> sounds like SIR Alec sometimes. The love story in this movie think is done
> well, however, I don't think It'll ever beat the Han and Leia love story.
> And the humor. YES! IT'S BACK! That corny Threepio and R2-d2 humor. Thats
> more like it. Thats the humor I wanted. Jar Jar barely even attempted
> anything remotely funny. Witch is good, very veery good. Jar Jar, belive
> or not, is actually kinda tolerable. He's in the movie very little this
> time, so those of you just who just hate to even look at him, well, your
> prayers were answered, kinda.
Attack of the Clones was a very good
> movie. Don't listen to the crttics. They have no idea what their talking
> about. Infact, one of the dose not even like Star Wars , not even the
> origionals. She shouldn
't even be allowed to review the movie. Some
> older fans are kinda upset because they aren't getting that giddy feeling
> when they saw it as a kid, and sometimes, you can't get that feeling back
> ever again no matter how good something is. And thats what I think is the
> problem with the people who giving bad reviews. Don't listen to them. You
> don't have to listen to me either. But I like Star Wars for what it is.
> All stories have a slow part. This only the second act. The third will be
> awesome. By the way, fans of Yoda will get a real kick out watching Yoda
> kick DOOKU'S butt!

I'm so frigging sick of hearing about how Attack of the Clones is a great movie. Not just average, not just good, but GREAT. Please stop kidding yourselves, it's not. I've seen it three times, enough to thoroughly soak it in. I've enjoyed it each time, but it's in no way a good example of the filmmaking technique. Watch the first trilogy, especially ESB to get a feel for real character interaction and development. Those are great, great movies. Attack of the Clones, while entertaining and generally harmless, pales in comparison. So much of the dialogue is devoted to exposition and plot development while character interactions were placed in the background. Wouldn't you like to know more about the master Jedi who will be killed in the next film? What about the Lars family on Tatooine? Don't these people talk to each other?!?!?! The only major character development scenes of the film involved Anakin-Obi-Wan and Anakin-Padme. Unfortunately, these were either cut to short or mishandled by Lucas and Hales. The dialogue in a lot of scenes was just plain wooden. In addition, like TPM, the film lacked something necessary to a Star Wars film, a clear-cut villain. Christopher Lee is great, but the Dooku character is painfully underdeveloped, we know so little about him. I've read the early draft of the screenplay which fleshed out aspects of his past that would have made his character so much more interesting. All we have in the film is a bad guy who limp-wristedly shoots lightning at our heroes. Not bad, but it could have been more. Even though the fan boys lurking on this board will already roast me at the stake for what I've said, I will take a moment to highlight some of the film's better qualities:
Acting: Not as bad as most say, Lucas is a fine director, he just needs to write dialogue that develops the characters as well as advances the story. I really enjoyed Hayden has Anakin, especially his scenes of anger, powerful stuff. Notice how stifled he got when cut-off by Amidala in the Naboo palace, or his loss of temper with Zam Wessell? This was excellent, but limited, character development. Natalie was much more animated than in the last film; her performance was good, but not excellent, not igniting like Carrie Fisher in the first 2 films. Ewan Macgregor was flawless, perfectly capturing the sage-like, no-nonsense attitude of Obi-Wan, he carries the film. The various other actors do well with what they're given, but since they're given little, we can't see their characters grow beyond the two dimensional roles of say...manipulative Chancellor or mysterious bounty hunter.
Music: Absolutely wonderful...when it wasn't hacked to pieces in the editing room. The breathtaking action piece on the Conveyer Belt was butchered, why did Lucas put Yoda's theme in that section of the film?! Stupid. I can understand his precedent for tracking on battle music from TPM into the arena and land battles; it was done before at spots in the original trilogy. However, itís an insult to John Williams to ask him to compose a good 20 minutes of score and then replace it with older music or silence.
Special Effects: Flawless, enough said.

To conclude this analysis of the film and the reaction from the legions of people who rave about it, get a grip on yourselves. This film, in terms of quality, lags behind recent science fiction films like Dark City, Twelve Monkeys, or even the Iron Giant. Those films took a dynamic approach towards developing their characters and contain much better dialogue. Even look at previous Lucas projects like the Indiana Jones films or more importantly, the Star Wars films that he brought outside writers to work on such as Lawrence Kasdan. I appreciate George Lucas as a visionary and even a decent director, but his writing skills beyond constructing a basic story are poor at best. I love that critics are getting hate mail and death threats for having the audacity to question the quality of Lucas' work. How insecure are Star Wars fans?! Instead of berating these people or denying what they have to say, perhaps think about their points. I love Star Wars and wish I could have seen the first trilogy back in the 70s-80s. But honestly, Attack of the Clones amounts to very little beyond typical Hollywood fare. It is not the second coming of Christ and it is certainly not a great film. It is hard pressed to be called a good film. When a man spends 120 million dollars on a film, would you think he'd have the sense to hire a writer to make punch up the dialogue and give the characters some added dimension? Wouldn't making a film that is both entertaining and strong cinema be an added bonus?! Yes Lucas says critics have never liked Star Wars, and it doesn't matter. People, including myself, will go to the theater in droves; but letís at least recognize it for what it is, and not delusionally build up the experience.

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  • Words of a real fan  (4853 views)
       Michael Walton - Monday, May 27, 2002, at 9:43 p.m.
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         Andy F - Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 4:20 p.m.
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         MSM - Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 7:35 a.m.
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