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Comments about the soundtrack for Batman Begins (Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard)

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Re: Ivan and Zimmerito are Zimmer fanatics
• Posted by: Zimmerito   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 2:59 a.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Ivan and Zimmerito are Zimmer fanatics (GrowlyCubNZ)

I do adore this soundtrack, and enjoy the dark beauty of it.

> Ivan,
you've got a bloody cheek calling this guy a 'fanboy' when your
> clearly in love with Hans Zimmer. A fanboy is someone who is so obsessed
> that can no longer reason objectively. Ken was right in what he said
> earlier, and I wish him well in his efforts to become a composer. I too
> understand his frustrations with the laziness off many of the guys getting
> paid top dollar. Zimmer is one of the laziest composers in the history of
> filmmaking.. he is joined by other lazy guys such as Klaus Badelt and many
> many of his other colleagues. Harrry-gregson Williams, a friend of Zimmer,
> had a flop on his hands with narnia and when the inevitable comparisons
> with Howard Shore's sterling work in Lord of the Rings arose, he totally
> dissed Shore. This arrogant attitude is prevalent amongst every single one
> of Zimmer's 'Elite'.
If there could be any criticism of Zimmer for
> being German (and there has been much comment of this in the thread
> comments for this review) it's that he's basically setting himself up as
> the Hitler of score composing. He's formed his 'elite' of henchmen who all
> think just like him and never question his style. And he's fired up many
> people with enthusiasm with nothing more than the power of his voice, just
> like Hitler.. that's a feat, however if you examine what the guy is
> actually saying.. (albeit with music not words) you will see it's equally
> as hollow. It's all a facade, a front. And guys like Zimmerito and Ivan
> are like the young boys who were brainwashed by Hitler into serving him
> without question. It's truly frightning what he's done. Zimmer has in the
> last 10 years swarmed across Hollywood with his cronies and acolytes,
> sweeping away what remains of decent scoremaking in the process. He's an
> arrogant, egotistical creep in my view. He's very self-indulgent and lazy
> in his work. I'm not saying others such as Horner or Williams aren't also
> repetitive.. cause they are... but Horner has been composing for 25yrs and
> Williams for at least 50! I hardly think you can say Zimmer has had enough
> time in which to exhaust himself.. and yet he has.. he's a one trick pony
> and at long last he's finally being revealed for the scourge he really is.
> I applaud Mr Clemmensen for his highly accurate, and biting review. As the
> very first comments on this review stated.. It was well overdue!

After days without writting here my name is still in this post....
IM more critic with zimmer than other people with his favourites composer(all the people who hardly c
I say all the "Bad things" about zimmer.And i said this score is really a dissapointment.And Zimmer vision of this score is totally wrong.I was very angry with zimmer when i heard this score for the first time....and now im just waiting for zimmer,his tunes,his dramatic touch without any aditional composers and with real orchestra.
Zimmer has a lot of mistakes,but his tunes and his dramatic peaks make me feel like any other composer make me feel(excep jerry golsmith).

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