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Comments about the soundtrack for Batman Begins (Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard)

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Re: Yeah yeah whatever...
• Posted by: Atreides   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2006, at 3:14 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Yeah yeah whatever... (Ken)

> Um.... but don't you think that the content of the movie should have
> something to do with the way that the music for that movie is percieved??
Also, the "What do we do? Yay! It's Batman" Genre is how
> Superhero Movies used to be when they were at their grandest. Surely you
> remember Superman. If you think that's old and dull, cool. Don't watch it
> more than the one time you absolutely HAD to sit through it in the
> theater. Ya know? Elfmans music was a perfect fit for THAT Batman. And it
> was Elfman who redefined himself as a composer to write that score. Howard
> and Zimmer didn't budge at all to fit the film, but rather tried to
> force-feed their current favorite things into the movie. That's what I
> don't like about it in perticular. You can probably say the same thing
> about the Elfman score, but the big difference is that Elfman not only
> redefinied himself, but he composed a very exciting score that truly fit
> the movie. And to me, this score fit the movie about as well as OJ's
> glove.

> Anyway, I hope I haven't insulted or anything here. Just wanted to create
> some food for thought. You do have some great thoughts, but I think that
> opinion-based issues can easily throw off rational discussions a little.

> Happy listening.

Actually, apart from the statements about the movie (and in certain places where I believe he implies the music should have been bigger), I agree with his review. I'm no fan of this album, I simply disagree with his assessment of the movie and, quite frankly, his tasteless comparison of them to the Burton trash (which, regardless of its "classic" status, I fail to see quality in). I believe that Newton and Howard were on the right track stylistically for this Batman; but that said, I still agree with Clemmenson's ratings for both Begins and the original Batman.

Oh, and I love Superman, and other superhero movies that are lighter in style as well, although referring to a time when superhero movies were at their grandest goes right over my head--if you ask me, that time is NOW, as I don't believe a good superhero movie came between Superman II and X-Men. Batman, however, is a totally different story in tone and intent, and I think Nolan handled it more appropriately than Burton, whose visuals were great, but got just about everything else wrong.

I wouldn't be against the next score for this franchise referencing and/or quoting the Elfman score a little, though.

Comments in this Thread:     Expand >>
  • Yeah yeah whatever...  (4142 views)
       Atreides - Monday, October 24, 2005, at 8:39 a.m.
    •    Re: Yeah yeah whatever...  (4209 views)
         Atreides1701 - Monday, October 24, 2005, at 8:41 a.m.
      •    Re: Yeah yeah whatever...  (3847 views)
           Ken - Saturday, January 21, 2006, at 3:55 p.m.
        •      Re: Yeah yeah whatever...  (3663 views)    We're Here
             Atreides - Wednesday, May 24, 2006, at 3:14 p.m.

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