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Comments about the soundtrack for Crimson Tide (Hans Zimmer)

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Re: You cannot measure the quality...
• Posted by: moviemonger
• Date: Saturday, August 21, 2004, at 9:40 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: You cannot measure the quality... (Kyri)

3:Well, it might be art, but is it ART
> MUSIC? There is a huge difference in that...

I don't like when people say something is art. For you it's art because you've been taught or "conformed" by your instructors down a certain way of constructing a piece of music. It's just like I hate when people call certain books or plays masterpieces because it of the way it was constructed (i.e.: shakespeare - his plays are so typical of "conformed" drama)

When people call things true "masterpieces" or "works of art", I immediately dismiss the statement because I know that it's going to have a certain style which can only be appreciated by "refined" or "conformed" persons.

Art in my opinion is bad because it dismisses originality and expects you to have a formulaic structure and pattern to your work.

I like zimmer because he doesn't conform to your "artistic" views. He writes what he feels, and not only art masterpieces can convey emotions well. Although he has a certain style to him, I can expect music that he will push the envelope. His work has a style but it's still original and fresh. It's good, but it doesn't have to be [your] artistic to be good.

What I'm trying to say is that art music is formulaic (maybe not explicitly, but you've been trained to look for the "quality" in art and only certain "quality" defines art for you), and in my opinion art music does not mean the music is quality.

Art music needs training to "appreciate", but all humans have a natural taste that defines what's good or not. Primitive humans weren't taught how to appreciate food, they may have been forced to by the limited resource, but today there are a pluthera of music selections to listen to and like without being forced to like a certain taste.

No hard feeling, it's just that I have an intense loathing for what people call art. I hate what people call art, but it doesn't mean I hate you, rather I respect eveyone, but I just disagree with what people and "established authorities" call art. I can go into a more psychological attack on these pople, but I'm getting tired of writing.

P.S. I was wondering if you think the "terminator 2" score is art music. At first you may not like it, but after a few listens it starts to break down and make sense (structurally). I think the music is superb, although to many is may sound like noise and mayhem.

You tell us to give your composers a shot by going out and buying their music to listen and grow a liking for it. Well, it works both ways.

Please respond. Thanks.

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