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Comments about the soundtrack for The Dark Knight (Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard)
89' Batman not a Happy Jolly theme!

John Somebodiy

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89' Batman not a Happy Jolly theme!   Friday, August 22, 2008 (12:05 p.m.) 

Hans Zimmer offended me by saying Elfman's Batman march was a "Happy Jolly" theme. Stylish and powerful, perhaps, but just because it is bold and unrelenting sounding doesn't make it happy and jolly! That would be like saying the Vader Imperial March is downright joyous! Maybe he is referencing the major note after the fanfare, but I think that makes Elfman's theme more mysterious and creepy myself.

And while I don't think the old march would be appropriate for the Christopher Nolan franchise (to heroic, stylish and exciting), I think Danny Elfman should score the next film because he can mimic the noble epic sound of James Newton Howard and the cold electronic brooding sound of Zimmer (and still do a better job!)

ps I also think that the new Batman theme for the next film should sound similar stylistically to the track Childhood Remembered in the 89' score. That perfectly captures the tragedy and mystique of Batman while having the modern electronic drive to make it work.

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Re: 89' Batman not a Happy Jolly theme!   Thursday, September 18, 2008 (5:41 a.m.) 

I concur with your statement about Elfman's theme. It's not happy jolly, I always thought it fit the character, setting and style of that 80s batman style perfectly. And it's very energetic.
Zimmers new theme for the dark knight is a Zimmer thing, totally. I like some of his ideas and think they fit the movie in a way. Especially that idea for the joker is very interesting and I wouldn't have imagined that something like this would come from Hans Zimmer, so in a way, he really managed to impress me here. But his batman theme... well, a Zimmer thing, it could have been played in a movie about a presidential affair or another action flick. I associate it more with Hans Zimmer than I would associate it with batman, something that would never happen - at least for me - with Elfman's theme, which is batman.

Hope any of this makes sense.


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