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Comments about the soundtrack for The Dark Knight Rises (Hans Zimmer/Various)

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Re: Who is this reviewer?
• Posted by: Hyun21K   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, at 9:42 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Who is this reviewer? (Drew C.)

> 1. Just because HTTYD received an Academy Award nomination doesn't mean
> anything. Clemmensen was probably commenting about other scores from
> Powell. And just because Powell had a busy few years, that has
> absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the music!

> 2. I am sorry, but film music is supposed to have complexity for
> intellectual simulation, just like the story or film. Would a
> screenplay be dumbed-down just to the bare emotions? Would the art
> direction be de-colord to only support the emotions of a given scene? No.
> So, in all seriousness, WHY THE MUSIC???!!!! I really don't get why many
> small-budget films get well-thought music and so many $250 Million
> blockbusters get the most dumbed-down, stupidest, most generic music in
> existence

> 3. Well guess what: Howard is gone from the franchise, you should be
> happy! And if you didn't enjoy Howard's music, than that's you own
> problem
. Clemmensen can have his opinion, and you can have yours.
> Problem solved!

> 4. You idiot, when Clemmensen refers to "D Minor", he is talking
> about the note (D, in this case) that every statement of the main theme
> starts on! When he states "F Major", he is only saying that
> Zimmer should have the first note of a theme / statement / phrase be an F
> for once rather than Zimmer's way over-used D!!!

> You people really need to stop calling the editor an idiot and calling
> Zimmer god. All of you brainwashed fanboys only make us hate Zimmer even
> more than we already did. I am tired of explaining this, so please tell
> all of your other brainwashed fanboys to go somewhere else (meaning off
> this site)!!!!!

What makes you assume that I am a Zimmer fanboy.
Am I defending Zimmer's score?
Very well, since I have criticized the reviewer, I shall now criticize Zimmer's scoring style to balance the picture.

I think Zimmer is a case of someone who caught the tiger's tail: I found a successful formula of scoring, and can't let it go for fear of losing success.
As a background, Zimmer did not have classical training, so already is orchestral style is somewhat 2-dimensional. His ideas are developed in an obvious manner. Enough said.

But, Zimmer is as much a businessman as a composer. He has his own music company and enjoys a close relationship with Bruckheimer. All of his "students" inherit his sound, a cardinal crime for any young composer in my opinion. Therefore, Zimmer's scores are nothing more than business contracts that make money. I do not see much musical value. Therefore, time spent criticizing his scores is time wasted.

My sole objection was the tone of the reviewer, who was taking an intellectual high ground. Let me ask you, do you know what dodecaphony is? Or total serialism? Limited transposition modes? Or do you know the composer Arnold Schoenberg? Pierre Boulez? Karlheinz Stockhousen? Gyorgi Litegi?

As for your attack on me, two words: °³ »õ³¢

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