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Comments about the soundtrack for The Empire Strikes Back (John Williams)

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Re: Better than Episode IV
• Posted by: JB
• Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 12:22 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Better than Episode IV (Kokas, the Frog)

> Listen to the Rachmaninov's 2nd Symphony (2nd movement) and you will find
> the beginning of Willow theme. I like Willow score, but when
> I found out of this 'inspiration' I started to heard it in a different
> way.

Actually it's Schumann's Symphony no.3 "Rhenish", not the Rach 2. But it is interesting to note that Horner has borrowed several themes from classical pieces ever since the start. The 4-note "evil motif" is actually the opening motif from Rachmaninov's First Symphony, Star Trek III clearly incorporated music from Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet ballet, Troy had bits of Shostakovich's Fifth Symphony and Vaughan-Williams' Thomas Tallis Fantasia/D. Arnold's Stargate theme, Khachaturian's Adagio from Gayaneh appeared in a slightly altered form in Aliens. I mean the list could really go on and on if you listened carefully enough. And then he copies his own music.

Well, I enjoy Horner's music, not for its derivatory nature but because I fell in love with his music when I heard Star Trek II when I was like ten, and then again I just don't care. But it would be great to have a truly original score to just experience a profound shock. Though unfortunately I'm not expecting that to happen...

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