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Comments about the soundtrack for Enemy at the Gates (James Horner)

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Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes!
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• Posted by: Brendan Anderson   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Monday, March 19, 2001, at 12:53 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes! (Tim Perrine)

> They can use it- but they'll stir up the same controversy that Horner has.

Controversy or not, public domain is public domain...we can only guess at any other intentions Horner seem to assume he was just sitting in the dark in his little studio patiently waiting for the phone to ring with a call about a movie in which he could finaly use Williams' material as his own...something he had been ploting for years and years I'm sure...And I'm sure he's just sitting around cackeling with evil delight as he shouts out, "You fools! I can write music like Schindler's List too!!! Look at me!!! Love me!!! worship me!!!"

...Not bloody likely

> The theme from Schindler's List is credited as "Theme from
> Schindler's List" by John Williams. Not "Obscure Jewish Folk
> Song" by Anonymous.

Just because the folk song isn't credited in the title doesn't mean it doesn't exist...come now...

> It doesn't matter how much Williams' theme is
> based on that song, it still is his own composition.

...and Horner's theme is Horner's own composition incorporating the same tune. What's the problem?

> It's immensely
> famous- and thus makes Horner look like a gigantic ass for adapting the
> theme to his score.

It's not his fault if his "irrate" listeners are ill-informed...

> And besides, while I haven't seen the film, does
> Judaism actually play a large role in the film?

It sure does.

> If you'll
> listen to other post-Schindler's List Horner scores like Titanic, you'll
> find that he has used that theme in passing...

In which track did that occur? I'd like to hear it as well...

> Oh yeah. I'm totally off-base aren't I? Horner has never stole from other
> composers in the past, and he most certainly has never turned in a score
> that could by deemed by the masses as being totally lazy and uninspired.

No you're not totaly off-base...indeed Horner has borrowed (stole, whatever) from other composers and also created plenty of bland uninspired scores...but let's not single him out...almost every major film composer has been guilty of that same thing at one point in their career.

> Also, I'm not Jewish, but I have a feeling that there's more to Judaism's
> musical heritage than the theme from Schindler's List and the Dreidle
> Song...

Of course there is...all I'm saying is, why can't he use any Jewish folk song he wants? Why can't any composer use any folk song they want?


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