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Comments about the soundtrack for Enemy at the Gates (James Horner)

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Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes!
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• Posted by: Brendan Anderson   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Monday, March 19, 2001, at 4:43 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes! (Tim Perrine)

> I couldn't care less about it being in the public domain. I'm not arguing
> whether Horner CAN steal the theme, I'm arguing whether or not he SHOULD
> have stole it.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. Would I have liked him to use a different theme? Sure I would have. But I don't think he's a bad person for using what he did because of the reasons I've already laid out. You seem to regaurd him as the devil of the film scoring industry. At least we still agree on Arnold

> I'm sure this was the case with EATG. He used
> it in Titanic and then waited for an opportunity to use it as a major
> theme- low and behold an Eastern European/ Russian themed movie came along
> a few years later.

Again, as sure as you may be, you can't be certain and therefore your speculation is no more accurate or better than mine...

> Track 10 (6:16 - 6:23). It's clear proof that your theory is hogwash.

I shall listen again when I get ahold of my copy of Titanic again...thank you for posting the times.

> Horner is a hack. He didn't happen to stumble upon the "old Jewish
> folksong" that coincidentally sounds similar to Schindler's List upon
> writing his score for EATG. What he did is outright plagiarism...

Again, ethical plagarism: if you say so. Leagal plagarism: no. Even your speculation doesn't fit the leagal definition of plagarism.

> Man, I get so sick of answering this response from Horner defenders.
> THAT is why James Horner is
> constantly under fire for his lack of creativity and other famous
> composers aren't.

Well, he deserves most of it. I won't be the first to defend him by any means. I enjoy most of his music, but I too think his borrowing of other music is lame...however, I won't have people accusing him of being worse than he is.

> BTW, could you explain to me HOW Judaism plays a major role in this movie?
> I honestly am curious. I was under the impression it was about 2 snipers
> after each other and a love triangle during the Battle of Stalingrad...

Sure I don't want to spoil anything for you, but I can tell you that the girl that the Russian sniper falls in love with (both of them are Jewish) learns midway through the movie that her parents were exterminated by the Nazis...she then decides to join the Russian sniper guy to avenge her parents' deaths and fight for all Jewish people who are in danger of being wiped out by the Nazis.

I love debating this stuff with you Tim 'cause you don't pull any punches and you're damn well informed (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really serious) Who knew these review page message boards could be so fun?


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