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Comments about the soundtrack for Enemy at the Gates (James Horner)

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Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes!
• Posted by: Tim Perrine   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2001, at 9:36 a.m.
• IP Address: proxy1.consumersenergy.com
• In Response to: Re: Schindler's? No. History? Yes! (Brendan Anderson)

> Well, that's a matter of opinion. Would I have liked him to use a
> different theme? Sure I would have. But I don't think he's a bad person
> for using what he did because of the reasons I've already laid out. You
> seem to regaurd him as the devil of the film scoring industry.

No no no, I don't regard him as the devil of the film scoring industry. I have little respect for him compared to other composers as I think he has very little artistic integrity. But I think he has a few admirable qualities- most importantly he is a master when it comes to doing his job (up until Titanic at least- Zorro also) of musically capturing the visuals. His scores of recent- especially The Perfect Storm are largely wall-to-wall nonsense when heard with the film itself. (That's a whole different can of worms, though) In my collection I have 65 Horner CDs. I think I would have far less if I thought he was the devil. I regard The Rocketeer, Krull, Aliens, Legends of the Fall, and about a dozen others as film music masterpieces... I actaully do find the man and his plagiarism interesting... I'd do a dissertation in a heartbeat. There's already a pretty good one out there, though. Have you ever read this huge article Doug Adams wrote in an issue of Film Score Monthly that basically 4 pages of Horner bashing- pinpointing where he went wrong? It's the best article in that magazine I've ever read. It came out around Titanic time.

> Again, as sure as you may be, you can't be certain and therefore your
> speculation is no more accurate or better than mine...

That's partly true. I think, though, when you look at Horner's track record you can infer that my theory is closer to the truth, though... If we were talking about Howard Shore or Goldenthal here, I'd have to think that your theory is more correct. But, you're right, I haven't been tapping Horner's phone line, going through his trash, or interrogating his daughters, so I really don't know for sure.

> I shall listen again when I get ahold of my copy of Titanic again...thank
> you for posting the times.

No prob. It took me 20 minutes to find it- heaven forbid I'd have to sit through the entire disc to find it. (Just kidding Titanic fans!- I like Titanic)

> Again, ethical plagarism: if you say so. Leagal plagarism: no. Even your
> speculation doesn't fit the leagal definition of plagarism.

I meant ethical plagiarism. Let's leave legal plagiarism out of it. I really don't care about that.

> Sure I don't want to spoil anything for you, but I can tell you that
> the girl that the Russian sniper falls in love with (both of them are
> Jewish) learns midway through the movie that her parents were exterminated
> by the Nazis...she then decides to join the Russian sniper guy to avenge
> her parents' deaths and fight for all Jewish people who are in danger of
> being wiped out by the Nazis.

Thanks for that. I think I'll check out the film this week.

> I love debating this stuff with you Tim 'cause you don't pull any punches
> and you're damn well informed (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really
> serious) Who knew these review page message boards could be so fun?

Awww...shucks... Thanks, I enjoying debating with you too... you never give up/in, though, do you??

Tim




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