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Comments about the soundtrack for Gladiator (Hans Zimmer/Lisa Gerrard)

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The Holsts are wrong.
• Posted by: CS_TBL
• Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, at 2:52 p.m.
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Before you start yelling,
- I have about 5 versions of The Planets
- I have the Dover score of The Planets
- I have probably heard the piece enough to be able to dream each note of each instrument of each planet, and therefor:
- I consider myself an expert on this matter, more so than that blah "Colin Matthews" who made the Pluto piece. If that Pluto piece showed one thing then it's that Colin is *not* a Holst expert, just a fan of the The Planets, not more than that.

Now, the Mars reference in Gladiator. Saying it's a blatant rip-off is like saying that ice-cream is like milkshake, and only because both are strawberry taste. That may sound as a funny comparison, but it's actually more true than you may think.
What the Battle cue and Mars, The Bringer of War have in common are those chords moving up and down, and perhaps the underlaying story theme (being a Roman war). Those chords are the strawberry here. If the Holsts think that up/down-moving chords are exclusive to them, then they're wrong.

Morally speaking, one may think and say that Gladiator and Mars have a few things in common, but that's where it ends. And FYI, the first time I heard Gladiator I also was like 'mm, a bit like Mars'. And I could mention another composer where I "mm"'ed a bit more often, names are not required :P, but I do wonder how many lawsuits he's gotten by now.

But would you dare to say that all the -say- country music, rap music, pop music etc. is all-unique and doesn't sound like one other? Or yet better, there are dozens of sound-a-like library CDs available for the media industry. You need a sound-a-like of a certain famous movie? It's there. You don't hear about lawsuits for those tracks, won't you?

Legally, the Holsts shouldn't have any base for a trial, and I rather think they're after the $uccess of Gladiator. Maybe 2,3 or 4 consecutive chords may match here and there -but only note wise-, it wouldn't be enough for real plagiarism.

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