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Re: Harry Potter track 2: the Jurassic Park wannabe
• Posted by: Dan Sartori   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Thursday, May 9, 2002, at 12:33 p.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Harry Potter track 2: the Jurassic Park wa... (MSM)

> Forgive me, but is it the first time you heard music in your life?? That's
> would be the only reason why you could say HP, JP and Schindler sounded
> the same. The style used on HP (which is instrumentation, rhythm,
> harmonies, melodic lines) are completely different from that on JP not to
> speak of that of Schindler (of course there's always some Williams style
> in it regarding to certain heroic passages or counterpoint). You say there
> are points that are exactly the same, maybe you can tell me wich points
> those are.
How can you say that "the opening of HP is exactly the
> same as the Schindler theme with only slight orchestration
> differences" !? HP is in 6/8, Schindler in 4/4, HP has thirds,
> Schindler has fifths, just to name some differences in the melody (not to
> speak of the differences in orchestration!)
What do you know about
> music? Maybe you heard the three scores 1 or 2 times some time ago? Listen
> again and hear the differences.

You are the type of person, MSM, that I have a very difficult time respecting, and your comment only helps to reinforce that. I will give you my musical credentials so you can decide for yourself whether or not this is the first time I've listened to music in my life. I am a 19 year old college freshman who has been studying the trombone for 8 years. I am a music education major at the University of Wisconsin - Madison. Although trombone is my primary instrument, I am also a drummer, euphoniumist, pianist, singer, and aspiring guitarist, as well as a songwriter and soundtrack enthusiast. I have been a member of the 2000 Wisconsin State Music Association High School State Honors Band, 2000 Wisconsin National Band Association All-State Band, and the prestigious Milwaukee Youth Symphony Orchestra, where I held the principal trombonist position in Junior Winds Ensemble (1997-98), Philharmonia (1998-99), and Senior Symphony (1999-2001). I have received the UW-Green Bay Summer Band Camp scholarship twice (1998 and 1999), Outstanding Soloist at 1999 Stevens Point Jazz Clinic, WSMA Solo and Ensemble Scholarship (2001), John Philip Sousa Band Award, Louis Armstrong Jazz Award, and UW-Madison Summer Music Clinic Scholarship, among others. Prominent musicians I have worked with include Benjamin Zander (Boston Philharmonic, New England Conservatory of Music), Michael Mulcahy (Northwestern University - Illinois, Chicago Symphony Orchestra), John Zdechlik (composer - Chorale and Shaker Dance), Richard Erb (St. Louis Symphony), Gary Greenhoe (Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra), Russell Mikkelson (University of Ohio), Mark Niehaus (Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra), Alan Baer (Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra), and John Aley (UW-Madison). I am currently studying under Dr. William Richardson, Professor of Trombone at UW-Madison. He has worked with such notable composers as Stravinsky and Copland, and has performed with the US National Guard Band as well as with the St. Louis Symphony. It was very rude of you to make that comment regarding my credentials, and I think an apology is in order. Such comments only make the commenter look bad.

As for your comments, I would like to say that you need to read my comment more carefully before responding, because there are several elements there which reflect a blatant disregard for what I had to say. Remember that I was not attempting to write a review of the entire soundtrack, only track 2 (a point that I made abundantly clear at the outset of my comment and that you subsequently ignored). I gave you several examples of SPECIFIC points - with time markings - that I thought were far too close to each other in many respects, but you must have missed these also. The fact that this track of HP was in 6/8 and the Schindler's List theme was in 4/4 makes little difference: the order and sequence of notes is almost exactly the same, plus it's easy to make that theme switch time signatures. This is leading the listener into the wrong mindset. I'll say it again: since the Harry theme is so similar to Schindler's List, many listeners get the wrong idea about what is supposedly being conveyed. The writing style is very similar to that used by Williams in Jurassic Park, and it sounds to me like he is not trying hard enough to break from that style.

I would appreciate it if you would provide some specifics next time you respond, MSM. Also, please read the comment you're responding to more carefully so that the person doesn't have to repeat everything like I had to here. If you still have questions, refer back to my original posting before you ask them, please.

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