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Re: Christian, I'm disappointed in you
• Posted by: Sylvie   <Send E-Mail>
• Date: Sunday, February 11, 2018, at 7:23 a.m.
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• In Response to: Re: Christian, I'm disappointed in you (Achilles)

> I admire your effort to defend this movie.

> Please read again what I wrote. I never said “what the movie should have
> been”. I simply pointed out why this movie is really bad, based on story
> writing and characters. I was not paid millions to write a script and
> direct a Star Wars movie, Rian Johnson was however and the sad thing is
> that he came up with this travesty.

> As for expectations, it’s not fans expectations that is the problem here,
> rather than lazy writing, and the obsession of Rian Johnson in subverting
> everything, only for the sake of subversion, and making silly Jokes,
> instead of focusing on writing a good story.

> I will give you just one example. Force Awakens ended on a cliffhanger,
> when we finally first see Luke after 35 years, in a dramatic ending, being
> handed the Light Saber that belonged to his father, the one that Obi Wan
> gave him, and then lost it when Darth Vader cut off his hand. For a Star
> Wars fan, this scene carries so much weight; it creates a very emotional
> load that reminds us the beautiful and moving history of Star Wars
> mythology. Also creates many questions. How was the Light Saber recovered?
> Who found it? Of course nobody knows what will happen next, but the scene
> itself leads you to expect a dramatic continuation, a humble reaction of
> some sort.

> So what did Rian Johnson do? In ‘Last Jedi’ this scene continues, the
> music swells (obviously playing with the audience expectations), and then
> Luke comically tosses the whole history of Star Wars, behind his back over
> the cliff, and walks away. (well yes, I heard just a few awkward ‘Ha…’
> laughs in the theater I was in).

> Now if you, as you say, a “lifelong Star Wars Fan, who has never stopped
> loving passionately Star Wars” etc, find this amusing, congratulations.
> I’m glad you enjoyed being mocked at.

> I pointed out COUNTLESS ISSUES with the film, and all you had to say was
> “Here we have an amazingly intelligent movie, that turned tables on
> everyone”. If you want to defend this movie, please try again, when you
> have something substantial to say.

Well, Achilles, while it is always rather pleasant to be considered a fool who "enjoyed being mocked at", I don't see why I should defend a movie I loved. Every argument I have for loving it would probably be one reason why you hated it anyway !
Case in point : the scene where Rey holds out Luke's lightsaber and he simply throws it away. I thought that was brilliant ! Everyone, me included, expected some kind of grandiose scene, and here we are, Luke just does not care. I think it's brilliant. You think it's disgraceful. Point of view !
You know, it seems you had the bitter deal here, because you had to suffer through a movie you consider bad and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes, I am a lifelong fan of Star Wars, and yes that movie made sense for me. I'm sorry if it did not make sense for you. As for judging whether it's bad or good, that is all a matter of personal taste. There are people who think Citizen Kane is a dull bore-fest and some who think it is one the greatest masterpieces in movie history. My ex-husband used to say Apocalypse Now was awful, then, after about 15 years, he watched it again and came back saying "wow, that movie is a masterpiece".
My sister, who is not exactly a Star Wars fan, it's just movies for her, saw it and was enthusiastic, saying it had brought her back 40 years in time, to that saturday evening in 1977 when we first saw Star Wars.
From where I stand; The last Jedi is a very good film, well written, and I like its look. And it makes sense to me, according to my personal understanding of the Star Wars Saga. And it's perfectly ok with me if your personal understanding of the Saga differs from mine and your opinion of that movie is not mine>. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. Neither opinion is more or less valid, they are just that, opinions.
So let's agree to disagree on this one.
And I also happen to think that the music Williams wrote for it is wonderful.
Yes, I know, I am stupid and halfway to crazy, but that's ok, I can live with that, and with others being of a different mind.
By the way, there is a big difference between saying "the movie is bad" (stating an absolute truth) and saying "I think this movie is bad" (expressing a personal opinion). Remember, "only a Sith deals in absolutes"...

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