> Kurt,

> I am right now in the process of putting my soundtrack analysis on the
> web. (I'm happily learning how to use my new web page maker as I do so.) I
> was doing a quick search for something and stumbled across this thread.
> (I've never visited this site before.) I don't have time at the moment to
> thoroughly look over your analysis. But I think we may disagree just a
> little (which is good... that means I have someone to explain the things
> I'm unsure about. )

> I will say this though. Fellowship of the Word-Smith
> https://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie.htm is a wonderful, fantastic source
> of information. It got me started on this quest. But I wouldn't trust
> everything without verification (actually listening carefully to the
> lyrics yourself, I mean). I have corrected information they had, (kindly
> published and credited by Ryszard), I consider some information still
> there wrong, and I have found conflicting lyrics at Elfling
> https://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/ posted by Danijel Legin. I find
> Danijel's lyrics more credible (to my ears).

> Anyway, if you bear with me while I compile myself , we could have a
> glorious conversation. I'm looking forward to it.

> Magpie

well, i am as well. one thing though, if you are talking about the "treason of isengard" lyrics, the lyrics on gwaith are correct. Danijel Legin beleived that the Black Speech Lyric was in a reconstruction by julian bradfield, but salo, the linguist for the movie, responded after gwaith put these up, and said that he had reconstructed his own Black Speech for this lyric. i to, thought that Danijel's lyrics sounded more fitting, but after carefully listening, i think i have analyzed the lines sung:

Daghburz
Daghburz-ishi makha gulshu darulu
Ash Burz-Durbagu burzum-ishi
Daghburz-ishi makha gulshu darulu.
Ash Burz-Durbagu burzum-ishi