Thanks, Kurt. I'll take a look and listen at those lyrics. They aren't ones I considered "incorrect", per se... since we can't really know for sure, can we? You said David Salo said he had reconstructed the lyrics but did he say they were *those* lyrics? See, I just always want more info. At least I know you listened. I suspect most people who say 'These are the lyrics' are just doing a copy and paste from somewhere and aren't really listening. I want someone who has listened and can maybe give me time stamps (she rubs her hands in anticipation).

I'll be out of town for about a week, but I'll get back to you. I've already started looking at your analysis. We agree on a lot. Some differences are just a matter of personal definitions and/or labels. And there's some things I'll need your help to 'buy' fully. I'd like to add your thoughts to my compilation... with proper credit and thanks. Would that be okay? I could let you preview anything you like.

Well... packing to do,
Magpie

> well, i am as well. one thing though, if you are talking about the
> "treason of isengard" lyrics, the lyrics on gwaith are correct.
> Danijel Legin beleived that the Black Speech Lyric was in a reconstruction
> by julian bradfield, but salo, the linguist for the movie, responded after
> gwaith put these up, and said that he had reconstructed his own Black
> Speech for this lyric. i to, thought that Danijel's lyrics sounded more
> fitting, but after carefully listening, i think i have analyzed the lines
> sung:

> Daghburz
Daghburz-ishi makha gulshu darulu
Ash Burz-Durbagu
> burzum-ishi
Daghburz-ishi makha gulshu darulu.
Ash Burz-Durbagu
> burzum-ishi